Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:55 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Richard Lamb must have seriously revised his bid if he's gone from losing out to BB2014 first time around, to now being favourite ahead of a multi-millionaire.

If he could do that now, why didn't he put this sort of bid in first time?

Something else to remember is that in Mark Moore's parting statement, he claimed that they met with Lamb, and Richard already knew (before they did) that the rfl were going to dock them 6 points.
Could Lamb be the rfl's preferred bidder after all?

The impression is that Lamb has been the RFL's choice throughout this crisis. He has not made one statement that could be interpreted as even a mild disagreement with a decision of the RL authorities.
But if they are seen to interfere with the administrators process that will provoke several possible reactions:
1. From Bulls fans- especially if Lamb's partners include Particular characters from the past.
2. From many RL fans who will become even more convinced that it's another example of the governing body being not fit for purpose-- eg. Turning away money from the game a la Stobart sponsorship
3. From the Koukash family
4.From the administrator if he feels they have prevented a better settlement for the creditors

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:02 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Richard Lamb must have seriously revised his bid if he's gone from losing out to BB2014 first time around, to now being favourite ahead of a multi-millionaire.

If he could do that now, why didn't he put this sort of bid in first time?

Something else to remember is that in Mark Moore's parting statement, he claimed that they met with Lamb, and Richard already knew (before they did) that the rfl were going to dock them 6 points.
Could Lamb be the rfl's preferred bidder after all?

Alternative to lamb improving his bid is koukash actually only putting a low bid in.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:29 pm  

How can "sources close to the club" know what both the administrator and the rfl are likely to do on probably what, friday evening or sat morning (assuming Wilson knew a few hours before he published), when the bids were in Thursday close of play and the announcement by the administrator is not until Monday at the earliest and the rfl can't decide until the administrator has picked the best option for creditors??? Something about that quote doesn't sit right. Its either made up, just someones opinion, or the process is more bent than we imagined and has been preordained for a while (anyone else think the rfl thought Lamb would win last time, and the administrator hadn't read the script as far as the rfl were concerned?) .

At least it seems pretty clear there are only two bids in the running, and either Lamb or Koucash will probably be better than no bids or Mr Khan or BPA and chancers.

Also, should Mrs K lose out, I'm fairly sure they wont be backwards in saying what level their bid was at, it would only take one of us to ask the Dr on Twitter! So we can easily judge the bar the Lamb bid must have cleared if he does win. But losing out to BB2014 and their no money bid, and then beating a multi millionaire a couple of weeks later? Impressive turnaround by the man with no stated motive if he pulls it off

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:37 pm  

Duckman wrote:

How can "sources close to the club" know what both the administrator and the rfl are likely to do on probably what, friday evening or sat morning (assuming Wilson knew a few hours before he published), when the bids were in Thursday close of play and the announcement by the administrator is not until Monday at the earliest and the rfl can't decide until the administrator has picked the best option for creditors??? Something about that quote doesn't sit right. Its either made up, just someones opinion, or the process is more bent than we imagined and has been preordained for a while (anyone else think the rfl thought Lamb would win last time, and the administrator hadn't read the script as far as the rfl were concerned?) .

At least it seems pretty clear there are only two bids in the running, and either Lamb or Koucash will probably be better than no bids or Mr Khan or BPA and chancers.

Also, should Mrs K lose out, I'm fairly sure they wont be backwards in saying what level their bid was at, it would only take one of us to ask the Dr on Twitter! So we can easily judge the bar the Lamb bid must have cleared if he does win. But losing out to BB2014 and their no money bid, and then beating a multi millionaire a couple of weeks later? Impressive turnaround by the man with no stated motive if he pulls it off

Excellent summary.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:42 pm  

It looks like Sod Hall would prefer Lamb as he seems very compliant, whereas the Dr is possibly regarded as a loose cannon by the hierarchy. The fact that he could get the Bulls out of the fiscal mire is of less importance than Lambs consortium bending to Sod Halls will.
So if its not about the money what's been the problem??
The mystery of missing flight MH370 will be easier to unravel.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:50 pm  

eddievan wrote:

I would imagine if this source close to the club was blabbing this info that a news paper closer to home might have picked it up. T and A or YEP ?

Theirs only two people at the club who possibly know anything and one does have a past at leaking things.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:24 am  

[quote="Ferocious Aardvark"]Thank you.

No, this is demonstrably just wrong. The direct cause of the panic was THE REACTION OF THE BANK to the lease sale. Your summary suggests the lease sale was to "underwrite the pledge risk, if the pledge failed". It was no such thing.

The Pledge = the season ticket pledge.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:42 am  

Lamb was openly talking about relegation and bouncing back up. If Mrs K gets us and we get some points back plus new players that leaves London and Catalan in the relegation places as Cas, Wakey and Widnes are doing so well. RFL will choke on the thought that both could go down and then probably out completely.

The RFL may prefer Lamb so that the Bulls take one of the relegation spots just to secure one of the expansion clubs – surely not!
This way the Bulls survive but take the punishment most think they deserve and possibly only London drop down and they (RFL) help them to come up again.

If Lamb gets it after such a poor bid to lose out to BB2014 this is the scenario I think may be happening in the background. My concern is that now Mrs K has made a bid if Lamb gets it and we continue to struggle and get relegated the fans will be very bitter towards Lamb and the RFL as the Mrs K bid will always be in the back of their minds.
Lamb seems ready for relegation.
Mrs K will fight to keep us up and said she would spend straight away.

The problem here is that nobody actually trusts the RFL – unless they give it to Mrs K – then all will be OK with them!

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:52 am  

I agree that anyone that succeeds above the Koukash bid will now be expected to make immediate investment in the 1st team. Anybody coming in and talking about needing the fans to do their bit or local businesses etc etc will soon have the fans on their backs.

If relegation wasn't on the cards, fans might be a little more patient. We're now in a position that if Koukash doesn't take over then initially at least, the majority of the supporter base is going to feel massively disappointed.

Perhaps one of the rival bidders do have the funds and the vision to rebuild the Bulls but are we really being fought over by several multi millionaires? Seems doubtful to me.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:03 am  

Is it me or has it all gone quiet on Twitter, on all fronts?