: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:26 pm  

And TBF I see no reason why the French should be discriminated against, given that their player development isn't much less important to the English game than that of English players. We need someone within cooee who can give us a game.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:32 pm  

Stul wrote:

He is an EU national. He is not allowed to be subject to restrictive employment practices such as nationality based quotas.
We can do what we like to non-EU nationals.

He isn't if he say spent time at an English club in there academy he would be classed as federation trained even though he would still be classed as French. Under the new rules it's where you were trained not where you are from which is a major difference.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:34 pm  

af wrote:

And TBF I see no reason why the French should be discriminated against, given that their player development isn't much less important to the English game than that of English players. We need someone within cooee who can give us a game.

When they made French players non-federation it was a big shock for me.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:37 pm  

redeverready wrote:

He isn't if he say spent time at an English club in there academy he would be classed as federation trained even though he would still be classed as French. Under the new rules it's where you were trained not where you are from which is a major difference.

I accept your point, but I can't see the RFL outweighing the European Court in Rinaldi took it that far. If you are French, you have the right to work in the UK without any restrictions, no matter what rules the RFL try to put in place.

Something that they realised with Simon Finnegan when he threatened it.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:49 pm  

Stul wrote:

I accept your point, but I can't see the RFL outweighing the European Court in Rinaldi took it that far. If you are French, you have the right to work in the UK without any restrictions, no matter what rules the RFL try to put in place.

Something that they realised with Simon Finnegan when he threatened it.

It's the same system UEFA are introducing in to the champions league and they wouldn't have done anything that could be challenged in court. The case of Finnegan and the Henderson brothers is totally different as they were born in Britian to British parents. But due to cirumstnces out of there control they would have been classed as overseas trained even though in the eyes of the law they were Bits this is why the RFL back tracked.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:40 am  

redeverready wrote:

It's the same system UEFA are introducing in to the champions league and they wouldn't have done anything that could be challenged in court. The case of Finnegan and the Henderson brothers is totally different as they were born in Britian to British parents. But due to cirumstnces out of there control they would have been classed as overseas trained even though in the eyes of the law they were Bits this is why the RFL back tracked.

UEFA keep threatening to introduce it into the CL, and then their legal people come up with another reason why they can't.

As an EU citizen, Rinaldi is entitled to exactly the same treatment as Finnegan and the Hendersons. The RFL rules cannot beat the law of the land.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:41 am  

Stul wrote:

UEFA keep threatening to introduce it into the CL, and then their legal people come up with another reason why they can't.

As an EU citizen, Rinaldi is entitled to exactly the same treatment as Finnegan and the Hendersons. The RFL rules cannot beat the law of the land.

The RFL seem to do what they like to suit though, so don't be surprised.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:03 am  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

For the good of the team it surely has to happen soon? How long do you give a player to find his form? He may be our captain but he doesn't deserve his place right now and should be dropped. I dunno whether Rinaldi is our answer at 7 but it has to be worth a try.

I agree with others on here though who have called for Sykes at 6 and BJ at 7 for Hull KR. Sykes has done fairly well at stand off and with Menzies on the right we look stronger defensively.

For some reason that escapes everyone watching the game Deacon keeps his place however he plays. I would certainly be moving Jeffries to scrum half for HKR game and even if Rinaldi is not fit we can use Sykes/Menzies at stand off.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:21 am  

JUDGE666 wrote:

For some reason that escapes everyone watching the game Deacon keeps his place however he plays. I would certainly be moving Jeffries to scrum half for HKR game and even if Rinaldi is not fit we can use Sykes/Menzies at stand off.

This has been said on here for months.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:40 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

This has been said on here for months.

Still aint going to happen though is it?