: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:30 pm  

af wrote:

I think a major problem is that many people consider 'Who should we get in?' and 'Should SM go?' to be unrelated questions. But unless X will do a better job than SM, why get rid of SM? So you need an X and you need to have good reason to think he'll do a better job than SM.

I think some of you don't appreciate what a big move replacing the head coach would be at this point in the club's lifetime. Got to get it right, so that means giving due consideration to both sides of the equation.

Agreed but it's wrong at the moment and needs to change

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:34 pm  

af wrote:

Who's the guy? Why have you so little confidence that a fair argument can be made that he will do better?

Because the last two and a half season suggests he can't.

Let me ask you a question and lets have a proper answer.

What gives you the thought that he can do better and how long do we wait if he can't.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:35 pm  

6Iestyn6 wrote:

It's like watching Man.Utd fighting relegation. We were once the most feared team in rugby league, pure power, now people can't wait for the Bradford fixture to come along.

Do you think McNamara is the only reason for our decline?

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:35 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Do you think McNamara is the only reason for our decline?

He's the biggest reason.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:36 pm  

Can't you understand that we are building the future. It doesn't matter where we are on the table anymore, what matters is we are building a future.

It doesn't matter that the players are not performing like they should, but they will one day, you just need to keep the faith.I mean who wants to be world champions and S/L champions anyway, that's boring rugby.

No one could understand why Warrington had a great team on paper but never produced the results. Then one day someone at Warrington said, 'Hey this spell of bad luck could be down to Cullen, who says we get rid? ' Then one magical morning, Warrington work up and found Smith as their new coach. This confused the players for a week, but then things started to change and they started climbing up the table.


One day someone will wake up at Bradford and do the same, the problem is, we don't know how deep a coma they are in, so fingers crossed


I mean it could be worse we could end up in the play offs and have to play an extra game.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:37 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Do you think McNamara is the only reason for our decline?

Not solely but he's a big influence.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:39 pm  

2007.

Games in and amongst this year.

The widespread respect he is held in within the game.

Is that enough to fend off Brian McDermott if he was interested? Perhaps not. And Lang to (fair play to 6I6 for sticking his head above the parapet there). But are they interested?

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:39 pm  

af wrote:

So you need an X and you need to have good reason to think he'll do a better job than SM.

X - Steve Folkes.

Y - Because he's a better coach than Macca.

Very Experienced, Disciplinarian, Proven Winner, Fine Record of bringing youth through, Good contacts.

How's that?

Of course we could just keep Macca and continue the way we are going though?
Hows that sound?

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:42 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Not solely but he's a big influence.

I agree he has to take a fair chunk of the blame. I just got the impression Iestyn saw him as pretty much the only reason.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:44 pm  

Putting other reasons aside, surely for a club who (as confirmed by Hood)are spending close to the Salary Cap it would be reasonable to expect a top 4 finish?

A huge turnover of quality players will have an impact and possibly make the difference between being consistantly in the top four and winning SL but at the end of the day we are spending probably close to Leeds and Saints and not anywhere near them.

I didnt personally expect Silverware for 2-3 years given the upheaval at the club but i expected us to rebuild in a structured manner by bringing in quality proven players and developing the academy. The Cap should have allowed us to do this, which leads me to think we are operating drastically under the Salary Cap.