Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:36 pm  

Well we've just made Radio 5

[Bullseye]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:36 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

I don't feel comfortable with reforming in the championship on -12. It will rightly vex all the other clubs off. But we've no got a competitive squad to try and avoid relegation. It won't be made up of the current players. It will be a last minute put together hash job with regular beatings and fans will continue to walk away.

I would rather we drop down to L1 and reform and build up and start a brand new journey together.

Think we may have to prepare ourselves for an almighty backlash...

I guess we just need to see what happens next.

Might be better than what you predict. Might be worse.

I'm almost past caring.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:37 pm  

The RFL have a vested interest - they need someone to pay the rent on Odsal!

Personally, if I was forming a new club, I'd move away from the place as it is too costly. I'd probably look for a ground share with a near neighbour maybe PA or City? As to training facilities - what's the deal with the Tong setup? If it is an asset of the old club the administrator will be looking to unload, might get that cheap.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:37 pm  

There is no way we can reform the club with just over a month until the start of the season. The only way it will be possible is if the RFL approved bidder was waiting in the wings until the club was liquidated and debt free to come and pick up the pieces?

[Bullseye]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:38 pm  

Maybe they are?

[Bullseye]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:39 pm  

We rented Tong Tristram.

Not sure how any new club could not just end up in the same mess if it re-formed and played at Odsal and had to still pay for upkeep etc.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:39 pm  

j.c wrote:

If this particular bull's club is dead and a new one rises how can it be penalised with a points deduction.

The same reasoning would prevent points deductions in ordinary admin. It's a new legal entity when you come out the other side.

My preference now, as with all those above, is L1. If we somehow get something together in four weeks and play this season then to play in Ch means relegation. Remains to be seen what the squad is. But the squad is all gone now. There is no TUPE here, as far as my limited knowledge tells me. This isn't an old entity transferred to a new one. This is just a new one with no previous.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:40 pm  

If we are about to see the majority of the team walk away then I don't think I can watch it happen.

It's pointless staying in the championship if we don't have a championship standard team.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:41 pm  

dddooommm wrote:

There is no way we can reform the club with just over a month until the start of the season. The only way it will be possible is if the RFL approved bidder was waiting in the wings until the club was liquidated and debt free to come and pick up the pieces?

Thats the only option. Two bidders were accepted by the RFL. If they want to bid again, they know what is needed. Senior players and/or good players won't stay with a 12 point deduction though, not if they have ambition.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:41 pm  

1217 guests. Where's Roy Castle when you need him