[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:13 am  

I'm not sure it's right to put all the blame Mick.

Yes, he may be better advised not to pass on all the tips he receives, though he certainly does have contacts at the club and other journalists, through working on the media. People who are genuinely involved will often have an agenda, and knowing someone with a high social media presence is a perfect opportunity for those people to disseminate any real and/or 'fake noos', which might just be passed on 'as heard' and without judgment.

Like most folk, no matter where it comes from, I'd evaluate every bit of it as either, possible, likely, who knows, not very likely, pretty much impossible. Mind, I'm still no wiser...

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:16 am  

bulls2487 wrote:

I would be wary of anything Mick Gledhill says. I enjoy his commentary but we have all seen the number of times he has got things wrong in relation to the Bulls before.

Especially during off-field issues. With Chalmers gone he may be not as close to the club.

[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:27 am  

nestegg wrote:

2) Name the club we still owe money to for a loaned player? - As far as we are aware we have not had any loaned players for ages, and certainly not this past season.

Thought you were fans?

We've had Jordan Lilley, from Leeds, on loan all season and Olsi Krasniqi who played two games in mid February, and strangely on loan from Toronto. Though I confess it seems unlikely, well it does to me, that they would have loaned us another player after a farrago like the one you describe from the previous season with James Laithwaite.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:29 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Its probably worth noting that there may be some of the contracted players that are not caught up in this pension malarchy. Those players will not be able to get out of their contracts just yet.

You are right Greg.

Some of the players and staff may not be automatically entitled to the workplace pension contributions and associated legislation because they do not have the requisite 'employment status'.

Many of the forum seem to slag off Mick G, and yes he does have history of getting some of his facts muddled (that said who wouldn't when you have in part been Chalmers' semi-official spokesperson for the past circa 3 years. We'd say Mick G does, however, get it right more often than not.

Regardless, you may be pleased, or saddened (dependent on your Bulls view) to hear that the gamecaller has never been employed by the club, is not therefore a 'worker/ employee', As such he does not come under the workplace regulation scheme.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:32 am  

nestegg wrote:

How many dogs are there on this sub'forum?! As a minimum we've got Mr Dog and you, Bramley Dog.

Apologies for delay getting back to you; we've been busy dealing with other issues.

in the spirit of conciliation we will answer both of your slightly oddball questions, which in all honesty have little to do with the current crisis facing the likes of honourable folk such Roger Daly's son:

1) Name the club that loaned money to the Bulls that we still owe? - The current list of creditors who are owed >£20K (which sadly is growing by the day) does not (as far as we understand) include any club that has loaned money to the club. The harsh reality is that in recent times no club would have been daft enough to have loaned money to Chalmers/ Bradford Bulls 2017 Limited (BB17). We cannot see that trend being meaningfully halted under the proposed new consortium.

2) Name the club we still owe money to for a loaned player? - As far as we are aware we have not had any loaned players for ages, and certainly not this past season. Sadly, we are a toxic brand, and other clubs are understandably wary of dealing with us. The last loanee was facilitated under a half cocked dual reg'n arrangement we had with the Wolfpacks that fell apart in mid 2018 after ex Wolves player James Laithwaite sustained a career ending injury in an away game vs the Hawks. Due to the majority of Bulls players not having medical insurance (contrary to RFL rules) we understand that poor James got royally dicked around and following a dispute between Toronto and the club a compromise deal was struck between the Wolfpacks, the Bulls and the player - for legal reasons we cannot reveal the sum involved. Do you think James L has been been paid in full?

Point 2. WRONG!
We had both Jordan Lilley and Colton Roach on loan deals this season.
We also had Olsi Krasniqe on dual reg from Toronto.

Id also add that even after James Laithwaites injury in 2018 , Toronto still saw fit to loan/duel reg us Jonny Pownall towards the back end of that season.

In addition the season long loans of Miley Wood and Liam Johnson from the Giants continued untill the end of the 2018 season

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:37 am  

Bulliac wrote:

Thought you were fans?

We've had Jordan Lilley, from Leeds, on loan all season and Olsi Krasniqi who played two games in mid February, and strangely on loan from Toronto. Though I confess it seems unlikely, well it does to me, that they would have loaned us another player after a farrago like the one you describe from the previous season with James Laithwaite.

Actually, you may be right re Lilley. Apologies - we were having a blonde moment. Jordan's arrangements are however we understand a bit unique. AND his so called loan was not set up this past season; it was the season before last.

As for Olsi. God knows why the Wolfpacks would have had any dealings with the Bulls post Laithwaite. That said, Chalmers was (and still is) a consumate salesman and he may have won Toronto around, in particular if it suited them.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:39 am  

I’m not aware of any players getting “sold”

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:45 am  

roger daly wrote:

I’m not aware of any players getting “sold”

What about Matty Storton and Rowan Milnes ?

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:53 am  

I, for one, am certainly enjoying nestegg's contributions to this thread.

Times like this can be very hard on the fans, so a bit of comedy is very welcome.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:55 am  

nestegg wrote:

What about Matty Storton and Rowan Milnes ?

Not heard anything. To be honest Elliot is on holiday at the moment so trying not to discuss too much with him, just what concerns him. Would just like him to have a stress free holiday as poss, although that’s not exactly happening