Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:58 am  

We're very much in a "any port in a storm" scenario and I'm delighted that local business men are looking to get involved and save the club (I took the girlfriend to Akbars in Leeds last night for a pre-celebratory meal,) but I have 2 concerns.

1- They want Odsal more than they want the club. While I didn't like Valley Parade, I'd rather go there than lose the club.
2- Aren't be just back at square 1 with multiple people owning the club and a fractured share holding? Who knows what could happen in 6 months time - we could end up with another warring board

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:03 am  

vbfg wrote: Special favours for Bradford: http://www.superleaguefans.com/champion ... y-rfl.html But none for Wakefield over a measly 300K http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 75,00.html

vbfg wrote: Special favours for Bradford: http://www.superleaguefans.com/champion ... y-rfl.html But none for Wakefield over a measly 300K http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 75,00.html

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:05 am  

Todays t&a makes reference to Noble helping with the consortium to determine player selection for this/next year. Doesn't seem like were going to see Potter back....

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:14 am  

paulwalker71 wrote: T&A Updates with plenty of new information on the consortium http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ord_Bulls/ What do we feel about the whole business of needing to get their hands on Odsal, given that 'property developers' are involved in the consortium? As they say the devil is in the detail and there is some devil in here that will need resolving. I hope Bradford come out of the other end of this but some of the inferred caveats in here look a bit rich to say the least. Its still going to be interesting have the RFL got the bottle now to let Odsal go after their statements earlier this year about its iconic status to Rugby League. What is the point of the three year license if Bradford go out of business and a new company come in. Surely the fairest process would be to allow other clubs to apply for this license (Halifax, Featherstone etc along with the Bulls newco if they take over and let let the best application win. There would be strengths and weaknesses in all applications but a clear transparent process would put this to bed by the end of the year. Yet again the sport is under scrutiny for all the wrong reasons and this is probably only the start. Good luck

paulwalker71 wrote: T&A Updates with plenty of new information on the consortium http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ord_Bulls/ What do we feel about the whole business of needing to get their hands on Odsal, given that 'property developers' are involved in the consortium? As they say the devil is in the detail and there is some devil in here that will need resolving. I hope Bradford come out of the other end of this but some of the inferred caveats in here look a bit rich to say the least. Its still going to be interesting have the RFL got the bottle now to let Odsal go after their statements earlier this year about its iconic status to Rugby League. What is the point of the three year license if Bradford go out of business and a new company come in. Surely the fairest process would be to allow other clubs to apply for this license (Halifax, Featherstone etc along with the Bulls newco if they take over and let let the best application win. There would be strengths and weaknesses in all applications but a clear transparent process would put this to bed by the end of the year. Yet again the sport is under scrutiny for all the wrong reasons and this is probably only the start. Good luck

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:20 am  

1- As a Warrington supporter, I have no horses in this race. Well, one actually, that I follow a minority sport (RL) passionately and I want the best for it. Bradford Bulls surviving in SuperLeague is clearly that. Anyone with a brain in their nut can see that.

2 - Lots of SL clubs have had advances of TV money in the past. It's a more distressed situation now, clearly, but if that's all that the Administrator is asking for then there is no issue.

3 - I understand why supporters of clubs that had been in admin might cry foul and "consistency". I don't know what inconsistent treatment there has been; presumably none. However it's too reductive to say "Wakefield got A, Bradford should get A too". Wakefield aren't Bradford. With the best will in the world, they're not and it's important each club is dealt with on their own terms. That's not special treatment, it's common sense.

4 - There clearly does need to be a review of top flight RL. The Bulls' situation may be down to rank bad management (well, clearly it is) but the question has to be asked as to how sustainable the current model is. The sport may need to contract in the future. That's something facing both codes of Rugby in this country.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:22 am  

paulwalker71 wrote: T&A Updates with plenty of new information on the consortium http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ord_Bulls/ What do we feel about the whole business of needing to get their hands on Odsal, given that 'property developers' are involved in the consortium? This is a nightmare scenario for the RFL, They shelled out the market rate for the lease on Odsal for 2 reasons, to help the Bulls as they were in financial difficulties and need the cash to pay back a loan and most importantly to "save" the iconic ground for RUgby League. Now if the new deal is the proposed investors want the lease to Odsal and security that Bradford will remain in SL then the RFL have to stand firm and have a contracted undertaking that They will be playing at Odsal and it will remain a rugby league ground for a considerable time. Anything less than the Bulls being at Odsal and the RFL selling out to developers will leave them a complete laughing stock........

paulwalker71 wrote: T&A Updates with plenty of new information on the consortium http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ord_Bulls/ What do we feel about the whole business of needing to get their hands on Odsal, given that 'property developers' are involved in the consortium? This is a nightmare scenario for the RFL, They shelled out the market rate for the lease on Odsal for 2 reasons, to help the Bulls as they were in financial difficulties and need the cash to pay back a loan and most importantly to "save" the iconic ground for RUgby League. Now if the new deal is the proposed investors want the lease to Odsal and security that Bradford will remain in SL then the RFL have to stand firm and have a contracted undertaking that They will be playing at Odsal and it will remain a rugby league ground for a considerable time. Anything less than the Bulls being at Odsal and the RFL selling out to developers will leave them a complete laughing stock........

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:31 am  

pie.warrior wrote:

This is a nightmare scenario for the RFL, They shelled out the market rate for the lease on Odsal for 2 reasons, to help the Bulls as they were in financial difficulties and need the cash to pay back a loan and most importantly to "save" the iconic ground for RUgby League.
Now if the new deal is the proposed investors want the lease to Odsal and security that Bradford will remain in SL then the RFL have to stand firm and have a contracted undertaking that They will be playing at Odsal and it will remain a rugby league ground for a considerable time.

Anything less than the Bulls being at Odsal and the RFL selling out to developers will leave them a complete laughing stock........

The RFL is already a laughing stock as you put it. By changing- bending the rules to suit SL clubs and themselves.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:43 am  

I think one reason why the consortium wants the lease might be to give us security once more, as the previous sale took that away hence where we are now !

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:46 am  

The rfl can always argue that they bought the lease in good faith for the reasons they give at the time. They could now argue that there is no longer a viable solution that will allow rl to continue at odsal. They gave it their best shot, gave the bulls time to find a solution to their financial problems. As long as they get back what they paid for the lease, I would say this is the least of their concerns.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:51 am  

Cibaman wrote:

The rfl can always argue that they bought the lease in good faith for the reasons they give at the time. They could now argue that there is no longer a viable solution that will allow rl to continue at odsal. They gave it their best shot, gave the bulls time to find a solution to their financial problems. As long as they get back what they paid for the lease, I would say this is the least of their concerns.

Unless they were complicit with what seems to be the biggest scam in the history of The RFL.