Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:58 pm  

Bullnorthern wrote:

" The Mathers and Lovegrove signings take the biscuit."

I agree with you regarding Mathers but disagree with you re Lovegrove. An excellent forward in Championship terms who never takes a backward step .I just hope he makes a full recovery from the head injury .

The head injuries that he was suffering with before we signed him?

He does look a decent player but we've loads of forwards. Some may not be as good as him but we have them. Combine Mathers and Lovegrove's salaries plus whatever cap space we have left and who knows, we may have been in a position to attract somebody like Soward.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:05 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

Didn't he only play in one game?

As for the link between standoff, scrum half and hooker being similar then it all depends on the individuals being compared. If your stand off is Danny Brough or Trent Barrett then yeah, the half back positions are similar. If it's Lee Gaskell or Danny Mcguire then they are not.

I get your drift. He only played two games for Leigh, so we couldn't really judge how good he was. Saints fans seemed to rate him, although it doesn't look like Cunningham does.

Mind you, he doesn't seem to rate Burns either. Fifty minutes at Whitehaven also isn't enough to judge him, but they were probably the best 50 put in by a Leigh scrum half so far this season!

I hope Charnock does well for you - I'm sure he would love to prove something to Saints!

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:17 pm  

If he does he'll be back there in time for the 8s.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:43 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

I confess I've never seen Charnock play, but a player who can't get a sniff at Saints even when they've shunted out Burns, and Walsh is crocked, must be well down their pecking order.

Still, beggars can't be choosers...

Let's hope he provides a bit of spark.

Let's be honest, the coach making that decision isn't exactly doing well at the moment. This is the same coach who preferred playing Jordan Turned instead of Theo Fages for the first 2 months of the year. SL coaches seem to love playing second-rowers instead of giving young HBs a go.

I would be disappointed if he left after a month. But if he helps us secure our place in the top 4 then I'll be happy. If hes not getting in now then I can't see him getting in in a months time when Walsh is fit. Cunningham seems to have the stubbourness of Jimmy.

Re: Halfback : Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:47 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

Didn't he only play in one game?

As for the link between standoff, scrum half and hooker being similar then it all depends on the individuals being compared. If your stand off is Danny Brough or Trent Barrett then yeah, the half back positions are similar. If it's Lee Gaskell or Danny Mcguire then they are not.

For me he was more of a hooker/SH than a stand off.

Re: Halfback : Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:03 am  

He will get lads running off him which you ae missing

[Bulliac]

Re: Halfback : Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:15 am  

Think we have to accept the month for what it is, but if everything works out, we can hope to extend the loan, or maybe more.

If it's true that Cunningham doesn't rate him then his position at Saints isn't going to be any different, so maybe he might want to go where he'll get some gametime - didn't Saints once have another halfback, in a similar position, not rated by the coach etc, think he was called Gaskell or somesuch, I wonder whatever happened to him..

Re: Halfback : Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:16 am  

Bulliac wrote:

I wonder whatever happened to him..

Last I heard he donated his body to medical science.

<runs away>

Re: Halfback : Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:33 pm  

Regarding halfback signing I think it might be really tough for you, as I see it Bradford don't have enough money to go big and even the clubs with money seem to be struggling to get good half backs. Hull are a good example of this bringing in every young halfback they could from Oz. Quality halfs in OZ can command big fees so you have to look at reserve grade. Leon Price signs for one of the richest clubs in the league, don't get me wrong he is good but only a short term fix.

Smith might have connections but bringing in Oz players is expensive, they need a car, they need a home etc.

Hudds took a punt on RB young halfback could make it at fullback of stand off. But there aren't that many English 7's Gale, Matty Smith, Sneed. Good luck going forward but I feel it maybe a struggle to fill the spot left by Gale and still not yet properly filled

Re: Halfback : Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:57 pm  

vbfg wrote:

Last I heard he donated his body to medical science.

<runs away>

That should certainly keep them busy for a while.