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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:47 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

What is the penalty for posting on an internet forum without due care and attention?

Christ Adey when I think about the web-toed people on these forums slapping the keyboard with their trotters wondering why their uncle is simultaneously their dad, it is clear that there is no penalty at all.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:57 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Its rabid "Bradford should get 6 points" probably with "end of" tagged on as if to emphasize the biggotry that really get on my moobs.

An I seen them moobies jiggling

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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:02 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

An I seen them moobies jiggling

The tassles have paid for themselves already.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:29 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

What is the penalty for posting on an internet forum without due care and attention?

Probably an age thing in my case but I was under the impression that you suffered penalties on the internet for posting with due care and attention?

Hopefully technology will advance to the stage that if you say something on line which would have got you punched in the ancient "real world" then delicate parts of the anatomy will receive a shock from an I-pain unit.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:33 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

I can't speak for everyone but personally I can talk sense with normals such as yourself until the cows come home. Its rabid "Bradford should get 6 points" probably with "end of" tagged on as if to emphasize the biggotry that really get on my moobs.

I'll be perfectly honest I have severe doubts that your point 1 ever happened. Tricky this because I'm not accusing anyone of being dishonest. It feels like an understandable exaggeration made to you poor Wakey fans wondering what the hell is going on, and said in a bid to reinforce how close you came to oblivion. Perhaps a bit of white charger in there?

We can't really know what happened because the RFL are hardly like to call him out and say "er we said nothing of the sort" and nor is he going to say "Yeah I exaggerated a little bit but it seemed plausible at the time".

How about a brand new option of a 4 point deduction and full Sky money. Still up against it but not totally screwed over?

The lack of clarity and perception of un-fairness felt by many wakefield fans that are the main problems here.
I've seen the winding up petition dated the 16th of Jan 10:30 am against OK Bulls, i am also led to believe that the OK Bulls went into admin before the takeover by the new owners. On paper at least that look fairly obvious to me where the blame lies and that the RFL have rules in place to deal with that. I have asked our chairman to clarify what was told to us in relation to our problems earlier on and as yet i have had no feedback.
The problem with this, and with various other issues that have occured in recent years is that the RFL appear to act in a very cloak and dagger manner and this causes confusion and mistrust.
Where there is a info vaccuum, people make up what they want - but in some cases that is based on what is fairly obvious - but amid all the murk and confusion it all fades into one big pile of blurge!!!
I know what i can see, i don't know how accurate a reflection of what actually happened it is though, but i am left feeling uneasy not only by (and about) the RFL, but also how much of a fair game we are actually playing here.
I have a well used saying when anything about the leaders of our game comes to the surface and its based on years of feeling like a second class supporter of a second class club, but... "i am not paranoid BUT where the rfl are concerned, i do go and check that there isn't anyone hiding in the bushes at the bottom of the garden".

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:06 pm  

Northernrelic wrote:

Probably an age thing in my case but I was under the impression that you suffered penalties on the internet for posting with due care and attention?

Hopefully technology will advance to the stage that if you say something on line which would have got you punched in the ancient "real world" then delicate parts of the anatomy will receive a shock from an I-pain unit.

Funnily enough, I'm just about to launch the next big thing in social media. Provisionally called "i-Kickinthenads", I see it filling a huge need in the market. I can easily see it being at least as big as FB or Twitter, and MUCH more fun...

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:11 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

As an outsider looking in (if its possible to see in through the murk and confusion) and trying to put aside the minute details (if that is possible).
At some point, hopefully before the season kicks off, the RFL will make some kind of decision about dealing with the situation.
What would be seen as fair by the Bulls supporters?
1. Expulsion from the league - that is what Wakey were threated would be the consequence of admin, the company owning the bulls went into admin prior to the takeover.
2. A 6 point deduction lowering to 4 if evidence of creditors being paid up is given.
3. A 4 point deduction.
4. No points deducted, as you have done nothing wrong.
Whatever the outcome this is another sorry day for the leadership of our game, our game and your club.
Before anyone suggests I'm crowing - as a supporter of Wakefield, we have little to crow about as we have been let down and been a let down to the game ourselves.
I think the devil is in the detail though on this one, so i guess it might all come down to the detail in the end.

Who knows with the RFL? After all we are the only ones who got the six points and half Sky money. Wakefield didn't get that did they? There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule does there?

So if we were to get a points deduction, that plus half sky money for the second year running would, I suggest be the same as option 1 in the long run. But will save the RFL the trouble of having to sort a league with one team down. And will help save London. So all good.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:21 pm  

debaser wrote:

Who knows with the RFL? After all we are the only ones who got the six points and half Sky money. Wakefield didn't get that did they? There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule does there?

So if we were to get a points deduction, that plus half sky money for the second year running would, I suggest be the same as option 1 in the long run. But will save the RFL the trouble of having to sort a league with one team down. And will help save London. So all good.

I dont' think its the same as option 1, but time will tell i guess.
The main problem is as you also point out, there are no hard and fast rules where the rfl are concerned, one fudge leads into another, and then into another.
They seem to be doing a wonderful job of demoralising and segregating the supporters of certain clubs.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:35 pm  

Why blame the RFL, its the owners of Wakefield and Bradford who have run the clubs in such a poor way that has caused all the problems. All the RFL has done is help both Wakefield and Bradford

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:36 pm  

...and other clubs.

But yes, what he said.