Re: Planning for 2021 : Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:03 pm  

Regarding rent. It could mean a reduction for us. Didn't Salford invite Sale be co-tenants at their new stadium to half the rent they were paying?

I'd imagine the costings have been discussed by all the parties involved and have a better idea of what needs doing than me. I'd imagine will be spent on mainly the terracing for fans, facilities like toilets and the floodlights then adding the stuff needed for stock cars like crash barriers etc.

For me the stock cars is maybe our only hope. If a new stadium hasn't materialised when the council have a perfect location, the club have moved out of Bradford and they have a dilapdating stadium, they never will build one. Even if they did, look at what has happened at Wakefield & Castleford.

The days of a new stadiums for single use such as RL are gone. All councils are skint and they're not going to spend millions on something being used 13 times a year. Even if we were in SL, the sports utterly f*****D and we wouldnt have enough money to do anything. If Odsal is being used multiple times of the year, then the liklihood of some money being spent on it like a new roof, improves.

I don't think it's a perfect answer. But if it manages to keep the club in Bradford then it's better than Dewsbury (as much as a tidy stadium it is)

Re: Planning for 2021 : Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:16 pm  

difference between us and Salford is they held the lease. We don't. As lease holders they were able to sub let to Sale. The stockcar lot are negotiating directly with RFL who will be obliged to maximise rental income from stadium. We might get a slight reduction in rent as we wont have full use of stadium 7 days a week like before, but you can guarantee other Clubs will ensure we don't get it reduced by much or they'll scream unfair advantage.

Re: Planning for 2021 : Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:46 am  

How do you calculate maximum rental income from a vast rugby league stadium when only one rugby league club wants to play there, and the owners insist it remain for the playing of rugby league? Considering it was empty and at risk of dereliction it wouldn't appear to a seller's market. If the Bulls agreed to provide security, pay the council tax and electric bills it would be a significant improvement on the RFL's previous situation. I'd be surprised if the stock car enthusiasts are paying anything initially.

Re: Planning for 2021 : Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:09 am  

The quicker we can get the Rfl out of this conflict of interest, the better. I hope the club have at least looked at buying the lease back from them.

Re: Planning for 2021 : Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:55 am  

Highlander wrote:

The quicker we can get the Rfl out of this conflict of interest, the better. I hope the club have at least looked at buying the lease back from them.

Didn't they devalue it to around 850k a couple of years ago in their accounts. Might be a sensible use for one of the long term low interest loans from the government bailout if club applied. They did say it was nt to be used to pay players and was for infrastructure projects. But there's no point buying lease back unless we have a long term plan and money to improve stadium.

For Maislebugs other clubs will have a good idea as to rental costs of a stadium as several of them are currently paying it. There wasn't a massive outcry about the 70K figure we were paying before so that suggests that about the right figure. RFL could present it to other clubs as they are gaining 100k by us/startrax paying the business rates but would still expect both us and startrax to be paying a significant amount of rent too ( probably undisclosed amount though).

Re: Planning for 2021 : Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:36 am  

This is insanity. Pinning hopes of our survival on an even smaller minority sport?

Hell fire! Why not go all in and bring back Kabbadi? You go on Facebook and twitter and it's full of starry eyed folk who should know better pining for Odsal and Super League.

If Odsal and Stockcars are all we can look forward to we should cash in the chips, revoke the application and remain at Dewsbury. It's hardly aspirational is it?

Re: Planning for 2021 : Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:11 pm  

Bulls Twitter says new signing tomorrow at 6

Re: Planning for 2021 : Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:08 am  

kaybenbull wrote:

Bulls Twitter says new signing tomorrow at 6

Just Dam Fleming being announced on a one year deal. Not impressed with this but we need a prop, he's got experience. Works well for Wales with Kear. Hope he's miles better than his last stint with us. Would honestly have taken Kirk over Fleming at the moment. But of course I do hope he proves me wrong and is class. I did enjoy his stints at Toronto and Halifax and looked to have matured from his days with us.

Has anybody got a link to anything official about us not offering Johnson, Waite-Pullan, Barlow and Foster new contracts?

Re: Planning for 2021 : Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:59 pm  

There was a press release earlier on in off season about Waite-Pullan, Foster and Hodgson but it didn't include Johnson and Barlow but I cannot seem to find it. It was also in the paper

By my reckoning we have 29 players signed up (28 + 1 loan)

1. Brandon Pickersgill 2021
2. Matty Dawson-Jones 2021
3. Rhys Evans 2022
4. Ross Oakes 2021
5. Joe Brown 2021
6. Danny Brough 2022
7. Jordan Lilley 2021
8. Anthony England 2022
9. Thomas Doyle 2021
10. Steve Crossley 2021
11. Adam Rooks 2021
12. Aaron Murphy 2022
13. Sam Hallas 2021
14. George Flanagan 2021
15. Brad Gallagher 2022
16. Dan Fleming 2021
17. Levy Nzoungou 2021
18. David F-Johnston 2021
19. Brad England 2021
20. Ebon Scurr 2021
21. Matty Race (FB/HB) 2021
22. Cameron Berry (HK) 2021
23. Bradley Ho (PR) 2021
24. Sam Smith (SR/CE) 2021
25. Murphy Smith (WG) 2021
26. Ethan O'Hanlon (SR) 2021
27. Billy Jowitt (FB/HB) 2021
28. Reece Hamlett (WG) 2021
29. Elliott Wallis (WG) 2021 (OL)

Re: Planning for 2021 : Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:07 pm  

Jimmy 4 Bradford wrote:

There was a press release earlier on in off season about Waite-Pullan, Foster and Hodgson but it didn't include Johnson and Barlow but I cannot seem to find it. It was also in the paper

By my reckoning we have 29 players signed up (28 + 1 loan)

1. Brandon Pickersgill 2021
2. Matty Dawson-Jones 2021
3. Rhys Evans 2022
4. Ross Oakes 2021
5. Joe Brown 2021
6. Danny Brough 2022
7. Jordan Lilley 2021
8. Anthony England 2022
9. Thomas Doyle 2021
10. Steve Crossley 2021
11. Adam Rooks 2021
12. Aaron Murphy 2022
13. Sam Hallas 2021
14. George Flanagan 2021
15. Brad Gallagher 2022
16. Dan Fleming 2021
17. Levy Nzoungou 2021
18. David F-Johnston 2021
19. Brad England 2021
20. Ebon Scurr 2021
21. Matty Race (FB/HB) 2021
22. Cameron Berry (HK) 2021
23. Bradley Ho (PR) 2021
24. Sam Smith (SR/CE) 2021
25. Murphy Smith (WG) 2021
26. Ethan O'Hanlon (SR) 2021
27. Billy Jowitt (FB/HB) 2021
28. Reece Hamlett (WG) 2021
29. Elliott Wallis (WG) 2021 (OL)

Think thats bang on Jimmy.
Looking at the Club website, There are 4 players listed in the first team squad who haven't been mentioned as staying or going,
Sam Barlow
Greg Johnson
Danny Maskill
Harry Shackleton
There are also 5 players listed in the Reserve Squad who haven't been mentioned
Ryan Butterworth
Ryan Leadbetter
James McGurk
Dewi Billingham
Alix Stephenson
At this late stage in the proceedings, the assumption would have to be that they are all moving on. unless anyone knows different.