Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:19 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Maybe, given that you could budget for a much higher home crowd average in the Championship (if only for a year) we could actually afford to make reasonable offers to players to persuade some of the better younger ones to stick with it. Maybe not, true, but my point on that is, we'd have more chance than we have now, as I see it. All I can see is our squad being raped over the summer, and unless our mythical investor/s finally descend from the clouds, bearing pots of gold, in the next 48 hours, then that's my suggestion, much as it pains me.

What makes you think the home crowds would be higher in the championship?

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:25 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

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For being happy, maybe I'm not thinking of the clubs themselves but of the fans of those clubs, who I'm certain would be far from happy - not least because it would mean a much reduced chance of their side topping the league. Not to mention complaints about "big" sides taking the mick and getting everything they want etc etc.

But as the Bulls have more fans than the lot of them combined, the MAJORITY of fans would be happy, and we live in a democracy, so ...

What makes you think the home crowds would be higher in the championship?

Of course, all would depend on the imponderable "what if" we stay in Sl, but if we go into admin, if we lose our best players, if we become even less competitive than of recent years, if we have to put prices up - a lot - despite having a hugely worse team. I am assuming that as the Bulls fell apart, lost their squad, and put up prices, this would be the perfect storm for attendances.

It isn't rocket science to predict very decent crowds in a table-topping Championship year, and 1973-4 is on my side too, we've been there and done that. Sort of.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:47 pm  

I can't see the crowds being higher in the championship personally. The away support might be similar to the likes of what teams like Wakey/Hudds bring but we'll lose the big derby match and other big crowds from the likes of Wigan and Hull.

What will happen with sponsorship deals? At the moment sponsors are getting coverage on Sky TV.. Premier Sports isn't anywhere close to the potential coverage with sky.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:44 pm  

Duckman wrote:

Given our current luck I bet we couldn't even win that!


Good post btw, I agree with pretty much all of it.

Thanks Duckman, nice to know somebody appreciates a jaundiced view!

My problem that if we did go down however voluntarily, is that I have to support my nearest team. which in that scenario would be Keighley and St Helens for Champs and SL respectively. which does go against the grain. Keighley not such a problem as I used to live there, St H tho???? The Enemy? Please???!!!

tho they do play such damned good rugby!

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:17 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

I can't see the crowds being higher in the championship personally. The away support might be similar to the likes of what teams like Wakey/Hudds bring but we'll lose the big derby match and other big crowds from the likes of Wigan and Hull.

What will happen with sponsorship deals? At the moment sponsors are getting coverage on Sky TV.. Premier Sports isn't anywhere close to the potential coverage with sky.

Yes, we can't do anything to upset our existing sponsors, as clearly we can't risk upsetting the current bumper income situation

Haven't you heard? Our current arrangements aren't doing the business! And, step forward the man who wants a job selling our sponsorship for 2013.

If we can't put out a competitive team vLeeds then that crowd would be poor to, nobody wants to watch a flogging

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:33 pm  

martinwildbull wrote:

Thanks Duckman, nice to know somebody appreciates a jaundiced view!

it saved me some typing

martinwildbull wrote:

My problem that if we did go down however voluntarily, is that I have to support my nearest team. which in that scenario would be Keighley and St Helens for Champs and SL respectively. which does go against the grain. Keighley not such a problem as I used to live there, St H tho???? The Enemy? Please???!!!

Me and my dad have been doing some talking on what it is that makes a team "your team" why do we follow the teams we do? (and pointedly, what would make you carry on regardless?)

In my case I was born and raised in Bradford, My Grandad watched Bradford as a lad in the 40's, helped them reform, took my dad as a lad, who has been going all his life, who then took me as a lad, etc, so its kinda in the blood. However, if a "newco" club doesn't share that heritage with me, and I do not and have not lived in Bradford since the mid 90's at what point would it stop being "my" club? (Bradford already feels like it not my home town, not even close to it anymore, I have very little affinity with the city as the Bulls is all I go there for)

At what point would I stop the long trek across the M62 and start going to my local team just to see some RL?.. No shared heritage?, different name?, different location? different colours? A combination of all the previous?!? I have no idea btw, I suspect it would have to be a fairly drastic dislocation for me to stop going but I suppose there is a point along that seperation for everyone, including me... but its a worrying conversation to even be having.

martinwildbull wrote:

tho they do play such damned good rugby!

Indeed, Its a bit like the euro football, I've drawn Spain in the sweepstake and its great being able to shout for a really top team for a change

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:37 pm  

I think the last thing that would do Bradford any good is to be playing in the Championship rather than SL. There would be lower gate income, lower sponsorship income, no TV income and Bradford would have to lose their best players due to the £300k salary cap

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:20 pm  

This illustrates the shallowness of Northern supporters.

Leaving Sodal when your team is losing etc., etc., ........

The number of Bulls shirts that I see in Keighley and Skipton makes me sick!

'GLORY HUNTERS' and nothing else!

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:11 pm  

666 wrote:

This illustrates the shallowness of Northern supporters.

Leaving Sodal when your team is losing etc., etc., ........

The number of Bulls shirts that I see in Keighley and Skipton makes me sick!

'GLORY HUNTERS' and nothing else!

And this illustrates the dillusions of grandure from our way word cousins!

Last time I looked keeflee and skipton where part of the third biggest metropoliton district that is Bradford!

But all the rhino shirts you can live with?

'BITTER' keeflee fan and nothing else!

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:02 am  

Skipton isnt in Bradford Metropolita district, its in North Yorkshire!

If you lived in Ilkley, or Skipton, or Otley, could you really be blamed for wanting to be associated with Leeds rather than Bradford?

I am As Bradfordian as they come, and despise the way Leeds has prospered whilst our City has gone to the dogs, but who really can blame these small towns wanting to be associated with a successful, thriving city, as opposed to Bradford?