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Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:35 pm  

FAs prediction doodar is a curious thing. I'll be honest I'm of the belief that we are already as good as relegated. But when you complete the predictor it at least gives a glimmer of hope.

If only we could have nicked it at widnes..... If only if only

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:28 pm  

If the new owner and board are serious about keeping us up, then they need to be working round the clock on getting those 6 points back off the RFL.

I don't think panic buying of players will change much of how the team play as I don't think there's really anyone of sufficient quality who's currently available and as FC has already said he won't stoop to the level of other clubs and try and unsettle players, I don't see that situation changing.

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:10 pm  

just had a go with FA's predictor...now....some folk might call me biased, but, I had us to finish as league leaders with Leeds finishing bottom

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:15 pm  

Another prop and my confidence will be much higher.

Wonder what Tom B is up to over in Aus - not seen him play for Souths this season.......

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:17 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

If the new owner and board are serious about keeping us up, then they need to be working round the clock on getting those 6 points back off the RFL.

I don't think panic buying of players will change much of how the team play as I don't think there's really anyone of sufficient quality who's currently available and as FC has already said he won't stoop to the level of other clubs and try and unsettle players, I don't see that situation changing.

Only way we can do that is paying back creditors. The large HMRC be would be the absolute minimum the RFL would expect us to pay back to even consider handing any points back.

The teams character will be tested to the limit here in next few weeks. Cummins as always praised it. We really need it now. On paper we have a good

The forwards have to roll their sleeves up and running like a train on to the ball. Against Salford our biggest metre maker was 89. Thats pathetic!

The backs need to be backing up every play just in case we make a break and also pushing up in defence even when ball on other side of field.

Lastly Luke Gale needs to pull his finger out of his backside. Since Wakefield game i cant think of anything positive hes done! Get the bloody attacking line organised and get some dummy runners!!!

Re: Relegation.. : Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:26 am  

woolly07 wrote:

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We do still have a chance but this is why I fear we only have about 8 games to climb up to 12th. If we are still 6 points adrift I fear we will see the club actively planning for the drop and putting plan Z into action.
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If you do the spreadsheet then you will certainly get a pleasant surprise

Only one person brave enough to do it, and post it, so far. Surely you're not all shiverers?!

Re: Relegation.. : Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:05 am  

Well, the club have launched their appeal against the points deduction today.
Now awaiting a hearing date

Re: Relegation.. : Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:26 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

If you do the spreadsheet then you will certainly get a pleasant surprise

Only one person brave enough to do it, and post it, so far. Surely you're not all shiverers?!

Here we go, using the FA predictor I get;

St. Helens...50
Leeds........45
Wigan........38
Hudds........36
Warrington....32
Castleford....30
Hull FC........30
Catalans....28
Hull KR........25
Salford........18
Widnes........18
Wakefield....12
Bradford......10
London......0

So I reckon the points appeal is pretty crucial.
For the record thats wakey winning against Cas(H), Lon(H), Wid(H) and HKR(H).
and the Bulls winning against Wak(H), HKR(H), Cat(H), Wid(H), Lon(A), plus one other surprise win from somewhere. (something like a real surprise/off day for the home team at Hud (A), Cat (A) Wig (A) or Sal (A) )

I've probably been a bit too positive for us and negative for wakey and I still have us relegated unless we get 2 points back on appeal. So its a big, unlikely ask....but its not a done deal yet. And FA is right, we pick up results towrds the end of the season, not over the next 6 weeks, so we're going to have to hang in there for a while. Also, if there was any doubt, its only London and wakey we're playing against, no other results matter, so we need Widnes/HKR/Catalan to beat Wakey if possible - because we're not catching anyone other than London and hopefully Wakey.

[Bulliac]

Re: Relegation.. : Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:12 am  

roofaldo2 wrote:

If the new owner and board are serious about keeping us up, then they need to be working round the clock on getting those 6 points back off the RFL.

I don't think panic buying of players will change much of how the team play as I don't think there's really anyone of sufficient quality who's currently available and as FC has already said he won't stoop to the level of other clubs and try and unsettle players, I don't see that situation changing.

I guess we should really applaud that attitude [even if it's not reciprocated] and it does seem to chime with his stated honourable way of doing business - that said, if anyone were to think about 'unsettling' a player they wouldn't advertise the fact would they? I mean Wakey never made an announcement that they were going to 'unsettle' Sammut and Scruton, did they - they just got unsettled and finished up at Wakefield.

[Bulliac]

Re: Relegation.. : Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:39 am  

rugbyreddog wrote:

The trouble with any plan for relegation is that we could not afford to open the gates with the size of crowds we would get let alone afford to pay a half decent squad with a chance of getting promotion

I don't think there is any realistic chance of promotion built into the new system.

The 4X4 league is four full time SL clubs honed by playing other SL clubs versus four with [largely] part-time players on a much lower cap and used to playing against lower standard opposition. It is possible, though it very rarely happens in modern RL, that a club in this position can raise their game for a one-off occasion in the cup - but they sure as hell ain't gonna do it four times in a league situation.

There is such an inevitability of the four SL clubs coming in at 1 to 4 in this mini league that you have to consider that this was the intention all along. The chance of 'promotion' is entirely an illusion, imo, and if we drop we'll be down until they change to straight P&R or bring back licensing at some unspecified time in the future.