Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:17 pm  

stjoe wrote:

Seriously the Withers finger and Joynt non-voluntary tackle.

You are lumping those old chestnuts in with this.


Who says RL fans have no axe to grind.

But if we want to discuss the tackle on Joynt..............

Surely thats the point :- THERE WAS NO TACKLE ENALTY TO BRADFORD:WE WIN. :

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:35 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Anybody supporting RL will know that it is not fair.The Withers fingertips in the GF was unfair, the Joynt voluntary tackle was unfair, Huddersfield not being relegated for several years because they has a good ground was unfair, Gateshead getting the shaft and their team and money being given to Hull was unfair. In the current situation whatever happens will be seen as unfair to one group or another. All I can say is stop whingeing on here and go complain to the RFL.

Gansongate. Not only unfair but funny too

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:42 pm  

stjoe wrote:

Seriously the Withers finger and Joynt non-voluntary tackle.

You are lumping those old chestnuts in with this.


Who says RL fans have no axe to grind.

But if we want to discuss the tackle on Joynt..............

bullseye Rugbyreddog!

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:27 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote: All I can say is stop whingeing on here and go complain to the RFL. Good idea! http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=564010&tsmp=1391469926

rugbyreddog wrote: All I can say is stop whingeing on here and go complain to the RFL. Good idea! http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=564010&tsmp=1391469926

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:32 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote: Good idea! http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=564010&tsmp=1391469926 Honestly I cannot see Wakey having a leg to stand on. It's a statement their chairman made in a fans forum. No official releases of statements anywhere to be seen. Interestingly I wonder f their wrote a letter when they were awarded a license in 2011. No? I wonder if fax or Fev are planning on writing an open letter considering Wakefields license was them PROMISING work on their stadium. That stadium that is now unfit for purpose and reduced to 5k

Slugger McBatt wrote: Good idea! http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=564010&tsmp=1391469926 Honestly I cannot see Wakey having a leg to stand on. It's a statement their chairman made in a fans forum. No official releases of statements anywhere to be seen. Interestingly I wonder f their wrote a letter when they were awarded a license in 2011. No? I wonder if fax or Fev are planning on writing an open letter considering Wakefields license was them PROMISING work on their stadium. That stadium that is now unfit for purpose and reduced to 5k

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:38 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Honestly I cannot see Wakey having a leg to stand on. It's a statement their chairman made in a fans forum. No official releases of statements anywhere to be seen.

Unless it's true, of course. The two parties, i.e., the Wakefield chairman and the RFL, know what was said or not said. The RFL can either:
1. Say Michael Carter is wrong and it was never said (or at least was misconstrued)
2. Say it was true but there are valid reasons why the Bradford situation is different
3. Say nothing

Nothing wrong with seeking clarification, particularly as both situations arose in the same close-season. One of the problems with situations like this is that opinions are formed when there is a vacuum of information, and the internet means that opinions are formed pretty quickly. Not helped, of course, by strange press releases which are hastily withdrawn, particularly when the precedent for points deductions is that paying off creditors are reduced rather than removed.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:43 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

...The RFL can either:
...
2. Say it was true but their are valid reasons why the Bradford situation is different

But, wind-up merchants aside - why should they? They have no need at all to provide responses to trolls and the mock-horrified, and everyone knows the valid reasons, they don't need a word of explanation

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:48 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Unless it's true, of course. The two parties, i.e., the Wakefield chairman and the RFL, know what was said or not said. The RFL can either:
1. Say Michael Carter is wrong and it was never said (or at least was misconstrued)
2. Say it was true but their are valid reasons why the Bradford situation is different
3. Say nothing

Nothing wrong with seeking clarification, particularly as both situations arose in the same close-season.

100% and hopefully the open letter will clear things up. I would just be surprised if it all took place over a phone conversation. Surely they would be some record of the meetings/discussions?

However even if it was verbally discussed with no record and it did happen but no "record" of it, I can't see the RFL denying it, otherwise they will be calling another chairman a liar when they know that be is telling the truth. Despite some thinking the RFL are corrupt there's no way they would blatently lie and call another chairman a liar.

Ether way lets get this cleared up!

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:49 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

But, wind-up merchants aside - why should they? They have no need at all to provide responses to trolls and the mock-horrified, and everyone knows the valid reasons, they don't need a word of explanation

They don't, I guess, except if there are complaints from their paying customers, they may feel obliged to point out the differences. Remember, fans of other clubs are also customers of the RFL. We buy their product as well.

There may be good and understandable reasons why the two situations are different. Some people won't accept them, but a lot of people will, and I can't see how silence is a preferable option. Why would they stay silent? If there is a difference, fine, I've no problem with that, and I'm not even suggesting demotion.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:51 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Ether way lets get this cleared up!

On that, we agree.