Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:16 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

I am in business but do not have to endure this type of politics involved in RL.

If I asked my customers for £500K to help me stay in business and they said "yes", I'm pretty sure I would have to account for that money and either; give them shares and representation in the decision making or give them security. I would also need to show that financial information including current management accounts and accurate projections and advise what I would do with their money.

It appears that the Directors at the time gave none of these things. For the company to take money like this, it would need to be an unsecured loan with no repayment schedule or a gift. With that amount of money involved, why did the RFL not get involved to protect the interests of the fans?

The RFL is there for the benefit of the game. There is no excuse for it to adopt a "Pontius Pilate" approach by making a decision and then washing their hands of it after the damage has been done by people they vetted and put their trust in.
It is nothing short of disgraceful as they say.

As someone who donated a reasonable amount I expected nothing back, just a hope it would help the club continue. If anyone had to account for it it would have been those running the club at the time, who are no longer in that position. Certainly there was no onus whatsoever on the RFL who I believe have bent over backwards to keep the Bulls in existence. There was never any expectation that I, nor anyone else I would wager, would have any saying in the running of the club. That would be almost, though not totally, a unique arrangement. Not that I am opposed in any way to community run clubs, quite the opposite.

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:56 pm  

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11104760.Lamb_issues_statement_on_failed_bid_to_buy_Bradford_Bulls/?ref=var_0 Another attack against the RFL and their handling of the whole Bulls affair. 24 hours to provide such information is a big demand. Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11104760.Lamb_issues_statement_on_failed_bid_to_buy_Bradford_Bulls/?ref=var_0 Another attack against the RFL and their handling of the whole Bulls affair. 24 hours to provide such information is a big demand. Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:04 pm  

daveyz999 wrote: http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11104760.Lamb_issues_statement_on_failed_bid_to_buy_Bradford_Bulls/?ref=var_0 Another attack against the RFL and their handling of the whole Bulls affair. 24 hours to provide such information is a big demand. Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday You beat me to it. Very interesting, the RFL taking some side swipes over their involvement in the process.....So Marc Green must have shown proof of the £1 Million?

daveyz999 wrote: http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11104760.Lamb_issues_statement_on_failed_bid_to_buy_Bradford_Bulls/?ref=var_0 Another attack against the RFL and their handling of the whole Bulls affair. 24 hours to provide such information is a big demand. Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday You beat me to it. Very interesting, the RFL taking some side swipes over their involvement in the process.....So Marc Green must have shown proof of the £1 Million?

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:13 pm  

daveyz999 wrote: http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11104760.Lamb_issues_statement_on_failed_bid_to_buy_Bradford_Bulls/?ref=var_0 Another attack against the RFL and their handling of the whole Bulls affair. 24 hours to provide such information is a big demand. Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday if Lamb is keen to buy into RL there's a club much closer to his home available....

daveyz999 wrote: http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11104760.Lamb_issues_statement_on_failed_bid_to_buy_Bradford_Bulls/?ref=var_0 Another attack against the RFL and their handling of the whole Bulls affair. 24 hours to provide such information is a big demand. Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday if Lamb is keen to buy into RL there's a club much closer to his home available....

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:50 pm  

It does seem, well, unfortunate that a succession of owners or bidders are casting aspersions over the behaviour of the RFL, doesn't it? OK and the half distribution; Mandy who seemingly still hasn't heard; Moore who claimed they said one thing then moved all the goalposts; and now Lamb. Is everyone out to blacken their rep or is there a common thread?

I'm curious as to how it got to Friday and 24 hrs was imposed for proof of a million, which couldn't - after all this time - wait till Monday. But in this short timescale, somehow it seems the RFL shoehorned presumably exactly the same proof out of Green's team? Hmm. It seems very weird to me that Lamb all of a sudden found himself effectively in a one day contract race, and indeed without actually being told he was.

Something very damned strange about the whole thing.

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:56 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

It does seem, well, unfortunate that a succession of owners or bidders are casting aspersions over the behaviour of the RFL, doesn't it? OK and the half distribution; Mandy who seemingly still hasn't heard; Moore who claimed they said one thing then moved all the goalposts; and now Lamb. Is everyone out to blacken their rep or is there a common thread?

I'm curious as to how it got to Friday and 24 hrs was imposed for proof of a million, which couldn't - after all this time - wait till Monday. But in this short timescale, somehow it seems the RFL shoehorned presumably exactly the same proof out of Green's team? Hmm. It seems very weird to me that Lamb all of a sudden found himself effectively in a one day contract race, and indeed without actually being told he was.

Something very damned strange about the whole thing.

I don't often agree with all you say FA, but my feelings on this matter are exactly the same. The RFL (the people that previously stated they do not choose the owners, that's the administrators job) have had quite a big say in who sits in the captains chair.

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:37 pm  

Quite frankly this whole farce of a bidding process stinks to high heaven of a conspiracy.Some serious questions need to be asked by Richard Lamb and Mandy Koucash as to why the RFL have decided who is to take charge of the club.If I had been treated like this I would be speaking to my lawyers first thing tomorrow.I am of the opinion that whoever is running the RFL at the moment is taking large doses of magic mushrooms!!!!

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:52 pm  

daveyz999 wrote:

Surprised the RFL couldn't wait until Monday

Is that irony?

Given the gnashing and gnawing and wailing that the the RFL were taking too long already, that seems an incredible statement!

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:57 pm  

dboy wrote:

Is that irony?

Given the gnashing and gnawing and wailing that the the RFL were taking too long already, that seems an incredible statement!

Really? How so?

As a Bulls fan, I would have been happy for the RFL to wait 1 working day to allow a member of a consortium to return from his/her holiday to provide the information which would allow the purchase of the club.

Doesn't seem an unreasonable request to me. How about yourself good sir? Do you feel that this 24 hour demand placed by the RFL was acceptable.

Re: Ownership and twists : Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:00 pm  

beechville wrote:

Quite frankly this whole farce of a bidding process stinks to high heaven of a conspiracy.Some serious questions need to be asked by Richard Lamb and Mandy Koucash as to why the RFL have decided who is to take charge of the club.If I had been treated like this I would be speaking to my lawyers first thing tomorrow.I am of the opinion that whoever is running the RFL at the moment is taking large doses of magic mushrooms!!!!

1. Mandy didn't get as far as to be bounced by the RFL. She bid too low and that was that....didn't get to 2nd base so to speak!
2. Lamb was asked to show proof of funds. He didn't......sorry, but if you've got funds available, then proof of them should be easy to provide. 24 Hours is not a long time to get a bank statement or legal draft guaranteeing funds....unless the funds aren't actually funds yet.

No amount of press releases by "failed" bidders will change the fact that if the RFL had acted in a criminal or libellous manner, they'd be in court.......needless to say, the threat of legal action, like twitter posts aren't worth the paper they aren't written on!

The RFL have saved Bradford again.....instead of bitching about it, their fans should be thankful they aren't planning a trip to Hemel next year!