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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:53 pm  
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This is what I don't get.

Scenario 1: New Bradford starts in Championship 1 on 0 points. A level playing field with all other clubs. Best case? They fluke promotion after finishing 5th and end up in the Championship next season, since the budget for a squad that can do that probably isn't massive. Worst case? They don't get promoted but have had a year of lower costs to settle things down and can move on from there.

Scenario 2: New Bradford starts in Championship on -12 points. Best case? They just fluke avoiding relegation, but having had to spend far more money than they have been given in funding in order to do that, they're now largely in debt again. Worse case? They spend more money than they would in Champ 1 and end up relegated anyway due to having a cobbled together team and starting on -12. They're now in Champ 1 anyway, but having spent a lot more money than they would have if they'd just started there.

Yeah, we've got a great deal out of this.



As for current Champ 1 teams:

Scenario 1: They get immediately moved up to the Championship. They only have a Champ 1 level squad, since they've spent the last few months preparing for that. They get hammered every week and get relegated, so start 2018 in Champ 1 anyway.

Scenario 2: They stay in Champ 1 and have a chance of promotion having prepared for that division for the last few months. If they do get promoted, they start 2018 in the Championship. If they don't, there's still in Champ 1 anyway, as they would have been in Scenario 1.

Maybe it's me, but I can't see how a Champ 1 team being thrown into the Championship with a month of pre season left would be a good thing for them?


I agree with all of the above but - There is a 3rd and very possible scenario. Take a year out and reform the club starting in Championship one in 2018. Same route as Toronto with no strings.

I hope it works out for you and would love to see you back where you belong in the not too distant future.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:54 pm  
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Poor Mick's copping a bit of flak from our former players on Twitter...


It screams of them not saying what they think while employed by the club. Now they are free to say what they want.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:55 pm  
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I agree with all of the above but - There is a 3rd and very possible scenario. Take a year out and reform the club starting Championship one. Same route as Toronto with no strings.

I hope it works out for you and would love to see you back where you belong in the not too distant future.


That would be a third scenario except in that situation, another club would still need to come into the Championship (due to the Summer Bash, there MUST be an even number of teams), so would still mean a Champ 1 side being put at a massive disadvantage and in a worse position than they currently are IMO.

If not for that reason, I think your Scenario 3 would probably be the best one for Bradford RL. Sadly, it doesn't appear to be on the table.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:56 pm  
Being the untrusting & cynical person that I am, and it is lamb & Irvine that get control of the club, then I would be asking Irvine to hand that 500k to the rfl and they can give it back in lump sums when it wanted.

I think Beaumont did something similar at Leigh.
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By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013

Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
Mystic Eddie has been right all along! - copyright vbfg 05.01.2017

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:58 pm  
KCNBABT wrote:
some of the people currently working at the club who have contributed to the decline of the bulls will be out the door.


Ah well. Duffy out at last.

Utter cockwomble.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:58 pm  
From what I've heard Irvine and Lamb both talk sense and unlike some, I really appreciate their interest in running Bradford. For me there's just one issue...money. We've been here too many times. As far as I'm concerned it's either someone with the funds to take the club forward or nothing. I'm not prepared to go through this again.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:01 pm  
Interesting that Lamb keeps getting bagged for his interest in last few admins yet he is only one left standing, plans to honor tickets, has some money to put in but has never said he is billy big bucks! Good interview on BCB radio tbf
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:02 pm  
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From the BBC Sport website

Some good news at least


I just want to hug Rohan.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:03 pm  
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Interesting that Lamb keeps getting bagged for his interest in last few admins yet he is only one left standing, plans to honor tickets, has some money to put in but has never said he is billy big bucks! Good interview on BCB radio tbf


Well so far, he has been all mouth. Let's see if this time is any different.
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Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:04 pm  
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