Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:33 am  

Northernrelic wrote:

As a ST holder I am in two minds...

I am not. If I get the turnstiles on Friday and my season ticket is not accepted, then I will be going home.

That's got nothing to do with the technicalities of ownership and legalities of whether they should be 'honoured', its simply that I had to stretch my budget to buy the thing in the first place and I simply don't have the spare cash to be paying again on the gate.

I suspect that, for this and other reasons, a large swathe of Bulls fans would feel exactly the same.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:44 am  

paulwalker71 wrote:

I am not. If I get the turnstiles on Friday and my season ticket is not accepted, then I will be going home.

That's got nothing to do with the technicalities of ownership and legalities of whether they should be 'honoured', its simply that I had to stretch my budget to buy the thing in the first place and I simply don't have the spare cash to be paying again on the gate.

I suspect that, for this and other reasons, a large swathe of Bulls fans would feel exactly the same.

Which is why the club can't just assume there is £x amount of cash to be made from every season ticket holder automatically paying on the gate if season tickets are not honoured. My guess (only based on the other Bulls season ticket holders I know) would be roughly half of the current season ticket holders would not attend every match, some would maybe pick and choose a couple of games, some would just not return this season.

FWIW Im not sure what I'd do if they were not honoured, Im assuming they are honoured unless there is an announcement to say otherwise- and I would have expected such an announcement before now.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:37 am  

There is a big argument brewing (Salford star) over at Salford as the council has put another £200k into paying the grounds bills after a previous £600k. Supporters are asking if Koukash will be spending some cash as well as the council. I just wonder how much money Koukash is actually willing to spend when he talks such a good game. As time goes by we will clearly learn much more about him and how he works. We will then be in a better position to decide whether we missed out on him or not.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:01 am  

woolly07 wrote:

There is a big argument brewing (Salford star) over at Salford as the council has put another £200k into paying the grounds bills after a previous £600k. Supporters are asking if Koukash will be spending some cash as well as the council. I just wonder how much money Koukash is actually willing to spend when he talks such a good game. As time goes by we will clearly learn much more about him and how he works. We will then be in a better position to decide whether we missed out on him or not.

Out of interest who actually owns the Salford ground - or is it another tangle of interests like our "Iconic" dump?

But give the poor Doctor a break - he is probably doing some strategic thinking on who he is going to replace Harris's replacement with as coach

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:41 am  

The club made a big point of emailing the Fakir news to season ticket holders first. I can't imagine that they would be drawing attention to this status if they weren't planning on honouring it.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:43 am  

Stul wrote:

The club made a big point of emailing the Fakir news to season ticket holders first. I can't imagine that they would be drawing attention to this status if they weren't planning on honouring it.

That's a very good point

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:49 am  

I didn't get an email.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:55 am  

woolly07 wrote:

There is a big argument brewing (Salford star) over at Salford as the council has put another £200k into paying the grounds bills after a previous £600k. Supporters are asking if Koukash will be spending some cash as well as the council. I just wonder how much money Koukash is actually willing to spend when he talks such a good game. As time goes by we will clearly learn much more about him and how he works. We will then be in a better position to decide whether we missed out on him or not.

Basically he wants to buy the ground - or at least 50% with Peel. The losses by the Council will surely only help him.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:58 am  

Personally i'm sure they will honour it, but I don't think they will get enough credit for doing so, either from many fans or the RFL.

I suppose it's sort of good business up to a limited point, but the brownie points they may get will be small beer compared to the stick, abuse and distrust which is the cross to be borne by every owner, so charging season ticket holders wouldn't go down well but then none of you were going to invite any of the board to your Christmas party anyway, be honest.

Is a bit odd that they haven't maximised whatever brownie points might be available by making a formal announcement, though.

Re: Ownership and twists : Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:03 am  

A quick visit from me, to update you on something, then I will leave you to it again. For those who are interested, the report from the Administrator, outlining the background to what happened, the reasons, the amounts involved, his proposals etc is now available online from Companies House. I have just downloaded it. I suggest it should put a stop to a great deal of the nonsense and ill-informed speculation that has been circulating ad nauseum for a while now. It reads to me as a clear, concise and well-written factual summary. Whilst it does not extend to the final sale to BBN Ltd, I suspect its content will answer maybe 90% of the questions that have been raised. Like just how much Khan put in, what happened to the employee TUPE, what Khan personally guaranteed, the role of Whitcut and much else. I suggest for those who are interested in facts, it could be £1 well spent. Here. OK, as you were.

A quick visit from me, to update you on something, then I will leave you to it again. For those who are interested, the report from the Administrator, outlining the background to what happened, the reasons, the amounts involved, his proposals etc is now available online from Companies House. I have just downloaded it. I suggest it should put a stop to a great deal of the nonsense and ill-informed speculation that has been circulating ad nauseum for a while now. It reads to me as a clear, concise and well-written factual summary. Whilst it does not extend to the final sale to BBN Ltd, I suspect its content will answer maybe 90% of the questions that have been raised. Like just how much Khan put in, what happened to the employee TUPE, what Khan personally guaranteed, the role of Whitcut and much else. I suggest for those who are interested in facts, it could be £1 well spent. Here. OK, as you were.