: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:32 pm  

mystic eddie wrote: Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough) Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh? Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight= About halfway down the page. How transparent are you?

mystic eddie wrote: Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough) Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh? Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight= About halfway down the page. How transparent are you?

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:19 pm  

Beechwood Bull wrote:

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=384131&highlight=

About halfway down the page.

How transparent are you?

OK, so I have used the term, but in response to the name of the thread.

However, obsession noted.

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:33 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

OK, so I have used the term, but in response to the name of the thread.

However, obsession noted.

That's OK Mr Clever!

Not sure calling people silly names and then denying it is a quality I'm looking for in the new Bulls Chairman.

Let's hear your other ideas.

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:41 pm  

Beechwood Bull wrote:

Let's hear your other ideas.

Had I a realistic aim of becoming a club chairman, maybe I would have some "other ideas". However, I do not and therefore whatever goals I would like to set are irrelevant.

However, just because I do not have a realistic aim of ever becoming the chairman does not mean that I cannot have an opinion on how they are doing the job.

After all, I also reckon that Gordon Brown is a numpty and incapable of running the country but that does not mean I have to justify my opinion by highlighting how I would save the NHS and solve the current international Credit Crunch.

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:07 pm  

McNamara ambitions remain undented http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... _undented/

McNamara ambitions remain undented http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... _undented/

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:18 pm  

Amazing. Yet again he is "learning". He seems to be learning each week, yet still seems to have no answers. What exactly did he know when he became our head coach?

As for coaching England? Well, the English fans are on a downer at the moment and could probably do with a good laugh.

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:33 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Blah Blah Blah.

Image removed re AUP 1.2 et al. . . . Bullpower

The same old "name a better person" argument. Why is it that some people feel the need for an alternative to be named rather than accept an opinion that the present man is not good enough?

Because they recognise that while it may very well be true that Wayne Bennett could do a better job than Steve McNamara, if Bennett is not interested in the job then it is irrelevant to whether McNamara should stay on. What is relevant is who is out there that the club could realistically attract that could do better. You haven't got an answer and you never have had an answer. When people have had a go, their answers have been laughable - Ellery Hanley, Karl Harrison, people whose careers in RL coaching have given no indication whatsoever that they would do a better job than McNamara. They recognise that sacking your coach without having any idea of a replacement is like jumping out of your boat in the middle of the ocean because the ocean liner that just passed you is much better. Bad news my friend, it isn't stopping, and that looks like a dorsal fin heading towards you.

Of course replacing 75% of the team is more difficult than replacing 50% of it. Even more difficult when you have a coach with a poor record in regards to recruitment.

However. Lets look at Wigan - the side that faced us a couple of weeks before Nobby left....

Ashton, Calderwood, Richards, Vaeliki, Dallas, Orr, Moran, Seuseu, Higham, Hargreaves, Tickle, Fletcher, O'Loughlin
Subs Wilkes, Prescott, Godwin, Jonkers

and the team that knocked us out of the play offs last season...

Mathers, Calderwood, Phelps, Carmont, Richards, Barrett, Leuluai, Fielden, Higham, Coley, Hansen, Bailey, J. Tomkins.
Subs: Paleaaesina, Hock, O'Carroll, Smith

Interestingly, three players played in both games - it seems that Nobby has dealt with his new broom a bit better than McNamara has done. Especially when you consider what they both inherited.

This is the same Wigan side that have conceded fifty to Saints and Leeds at home? Got beaten 34-4 by Huddersfield at home? Lost a Challenge Cup semi-final to a side 11th in the Super League table at the time? Finished well below Bradford in the table two years out three?... yeah, they got a fluke win at Odsal last year and a more convincing, albeit video ref assisted one this, but if Bulls had had the same last three years that Wigan have had, you'd still be spitting chips and calling for McNamara's head. I'd say that Noble (your selection for comparison who is, let's remember, the most successful coach in the history of both the club and the game in the Super League era) and McNamara are experiencing similar difficulties in a rebuilding process and are experiencing roughly similar levels of success.

: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:35 pm  

af wrote:

When people have had a go, their answers have been laughable - Ellery Hanley, Karl Harrison, people whose careers in RL coaching have given no indication whatsoever that they would do a better job than McNamara.

Hmm.

Two full seasons as a head coach, one SL title win (the team he left went on to be champions the next year too) and one promotion won with a team who finished bottom of their league the year before.

If that's a laughable suggestion for a coach then bring on the laughs.

: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:00 am  

Yeah, Ellery would give us the stability we need. Also, John Monie won the title the year before and now he's been sacked by France he's probably available, perhaps we should go for him.

: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:29 am  

"Poor old eddie's still ploughing -
are you gonna tell him, or shall I?"