: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:50 pm  

BM wrote:

Oh yes the main benefit was obviously the 56 people's lives who would have been saved but while we have a chance let's not forget to mention that there would have benefits to the Bulls as well.

I may be accused if being too emotive ( and there's good reason ) with regard to any mention of the fire but City fans were tied to VP before the fire too. It's the club's history. You know much like the Bulls fans who refused to attend or the ones who complained about every little thing while spending two seasons at VP.

OK, there's probably no way to put across the sentiment I wanted to in a forum posting. Please take my word that I don't mean to be glib even if that is how it comes across. My point was that what occured that afternoon had longstanding effects on the city's sports clubs. How great that effect was we can debate, albeit with difficulty as already seen because it is easy to come across as being callous about the deaths and serious injuries suffered by so many people.

: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:52 pm  

BM wrote:

City fans were tied to VP before the fire too. It's the club's history. You know much like the Bulls fans who refused to attend or the ones who complained about every little thing while spending two seasons at VP.

Lots of football league clubs have left their home ground in the past couple of decades. That it would be understandably much more of a wrench for City was the point I inelegantly was trying to make.

: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:01 am  

The Chair Maker wrote: Times change and precedents are set,eg Salfords planning application. However as Saints fans we got organised via the SBS, and held marches , put pressure on the politicians to act in support of a new stadium, wrote letters to the government department, held demonstations outside Morrisons etc. Bulls fans need to get organised and start putting the heat on councillors and MP's Morrisons boss blasts Blears for not calling Saints stadium inquiry Sounds like if our scheme had gone before Blears instead Byers (where is he now?), we would have been fine...

The Chair Maker wrote: Times change and precedents are set,eg Salfords planning application. However as Saints fans we got organised via the SBS, and held marches , put pressure on the politicians to act in support of a new stadium, wrote letters to the government department, held demonstations outside Morrisons etc. Bulls fans need to get organised and start putting the heat on councillors and MP's Morrisons boss blasts Blears for not calling Saints stadium inquiry Sounds like if our scheme had gone before Blears instead Byers (where is he now?), we would have been fine...

: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:06 am  

Bullseye wrote:

The plan mooted in the T&A about a stadium for BPA near Phoenix Park is even less likely to happen than OSV. Having had a look at the finances on Companies House I'd suggest he couldn't afford a coat of paint for the gates of the BPA stadium let alone anything else.

I think that the Bulls are going to end up at VP as it will be their only option. Bulls fans may have to make a choice as to whether they want to support the club at VP or not have a club at all. Having said all that a move there isn't an easy solution. The Bulls may have to pay back some money to get out of Odsal and that cost may be prohibitive, unless the council write it off so they can dump the Odsal millstone once and for all.

Agreed regarding Phoenix Park. Besides, its not going to be a 20,000 capacity stadium. Bob Blackburn said on the BPA forum that he asked for 20,000 in the hope that they'd compromise for something less but still significant, probably about half the size of that.

: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:31 pm  

BM wrote:

If you want to throw stones then maybe you should look a little closer to home at a successful, private company that is unable and unwilling to contribute to it's own future whilst blaming all and sundry for that situation.

Thats buck passing big style, I don't blame them for hesitating considering the mulitude of cocks ups this Council has presided over in the last two decades. Thats probably why they are a succesful private Company!

: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:46 pm  

From League Express

A convoy of Bulls Officals will accompany a group of Councillors and other Bradford Citizens this wednesday on a visit to Leigh Centurions new hom at the Leigh Sporting Village.

Peter Hood Explains, "leigh now has a superb Facility and Bradfords Elected members and the Council officers are going to see that the formula does work. I recently met with Braford Councils Executive and i think there is goodwill towards the Odsal Project from every point on the political spectrum, essentially becasue the Odsal Project is about much more than the Bulls. It is about Social Cohesion and it will form part of the glue that sticks the city of Bradford Together"

: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:21 pm  

MQBlank wrote:

It is about Social Cohesion and it will form part of the glue that sticks the city of Bradford Together"

That's jolly decent of him.

Thanks Peter.

: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:43 pm  

MQBlank wrote: It is about Social Cohesion and it will form part of the glue that sticks the city of Bradford Together"

aj cougar wrote:

That's jolly decent of him.

Thanks Peter.

Keighley is like an item that sticks for a while then eventually starts to come away and you have to push it back on again, wait awhile and restart the process again!

: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:21 pm  

MQBlank wrote:

From League Express

A convoy of Bulls Officals will accompany a group of Councillors and other Bradford Citizens this wednesday on a visit to Leigh Centurions new hom at the Leigh Sporting Village.
Peter Hood Explains, "leigh now has a superb Facility and Bradfords Elected members and the Council officers are going to see that the formula does work. I recently met with Braford Councils Executive and i think there is goodwill towards the Odsal Project from every point on the political spectrum, essentially becasue the Odsal Project is about much more than the Bulls. It is about Social Cohesion and it will form part of the glue that sticks the city of Bradford Together"

I read this too, and it is flattering to think that a SL club is interested in looking at our superb new Stadium/training facilities, that are tied into the concept of a 'Sports Village'

I was however, horrified to see the quote in League Express, along the lines that 'the LSV stadium/facilities tick all the boxes necessary for a successful SL license application.' Nobody told Richard Lewis or his colleagues about this! On North West TV, he said that Celtic Crusaders stadium and facilities were better than Leigh's new ones and that ours are 'not proven' yet! (the training facilities have been good enough for Warrington to use, and Saints and Catalans are considering using them next season)

My advice to you guys is - don't associate yourselves with anything Leigh (allegedly) has, or you may incur the wrath of Mr. Lewis and his mates! Meanwhile, enjoy the visit, and I hope we get the chance to see you at the LSV next season - provding it is proven to exist, of course!

: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:20 pm  

Alan wrote:

I read this too, and it is flattering to think that a SL club is interested in looking at our superb new Stadium/training facilities, that are tied into the concept of a 'Sports Village'

I was however, horrified to see the quote in League Express, along the lines that 'the LSV stadium/facilities tick all the boxes necessary for a successful SL license application.' Nobody told Richard Lewis or his colleagues about this! On North West TV, he said that Celtic Crusaders stadium and facilities were better than Leigh's new ones and that ours are 'not proven' yet! (the training facilities have been good enough for Warrington to use, and Saints and Catalans are considering using them next season)

My advice to you guys is - don't associate yourselves with anything Leigh (allegedly) has, or you may incur the wrath of Mr. Lewis and his mates! Meanwhile, enjoy the visit, and I hope we get the chance to see you at the LSV next season - provding it is proven to exist, of course!

Unfortunately for you guys the SL licences aren't granted purely on the state of the ground