Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:41 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Where is Caisley in all this? He has created the frenzy, but has appeared to have melted into the shadows.

I'd be surprised if he isn't the C in ABC.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:12 am  

mat wrote:

I'd be surprised if he isn't the C in ABC.

Not for the first time has Mr Caisley been described as a C

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:46 am  

Roofaldo wrote:

Not for the first time has Mr Caisley been described as a C

And thats what Cannestan is for

[Bulliac]

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:22 am  

Did I hear Solly correctly? I thought he said that, the 'new' punishment for "financial trouble" had been changed from points deduction to automatic relegation - which was why they couldn't promise to preserve SL status. Seems about right that we get the first opportunity to test drive the new policy when everyone else got a points deduction. Seems pretty shabby to just spring this on people, surely it's only natural justice to know what the punishment is going to be before you get hung for the offence?

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:26 am  

Bulliac wrote:

Did I hear Solly correctly? I thought he said that, the 'new' punishment for "financial trouble" had been changed from points deduction to automatic relegation - which was why they couldn't promise to preserve SL status. Seems about right that we get the first opportunity to test drive the new policy when everyone else got a points deduction. Seems pretty shabby to just spring this on people, surely it's only natural justice to know what the punishment is going to be before you get hung for the offence?

RFL in making up the rules as they muddle along shocker...

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:35 am  

Bulliac wrote:

Did I hear Solly correctly? I thought he said that, the 'new' punishment for "financial trouble" had been changed from points deduction to automatic relegation - which was why they couldn't promise to preserve SL status. Seems about right that we get the first opportunity to test drive the new policy when everyone else got a points deduction. Seems pretty shabby to just spring this on people, surely it's only natural justice to know what the punishment is going to be before you get hung for the offence?

Start to worry about this aspect once your club has been secured at the moment there doesn't appear to be any movement ona deal one step at a time

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:44 am  

You miss the point sunshine. Catch 22. No SL status no ABC consortium bid therefore no club anyway.

Unless of course some other group was able to come in with a proposal, one that appealed to the RFL to such an extent that they felt able to mitigate the penalty, so allowing the white knights to feel able to proceed when the ABC lot felt they could not?

Plenty more twists and turns yet, I suspect, and who knows which fat lady will sing?

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:15 am  

Bulliac wrote:

Did I hear Solly correctly? I thought he said that, the 'new' punishment for "financial trouble" had been changed from points deduction to automatic relegation - which was why they couldn't promise to preserve SL status. Seems about right that we get the first opportunity to test drive the new policy when everyone else got a points deduction. Seems pretty shabby to just spring this on people, surely it's only natural justice to know what the punishment is going to be before you get hung for the offence?

Did I also hear him say that Wigan & Leeds were examples of Clubs being run
financially sound without the help of a benefactor?

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:45 am  

To be absolutely fair to the RFL (and, yes, it does slightly stick in the throat) they DID make it clear at the time of the awarding of franchises last year that clubs could have their license revoked.

Whilst it may seem unfair that we might dumped into the Championship, the points deduction for Wakefield and Crusaders was in the last license period. It is presumably in response to that sequence of events that the RFL made that hardline pronouncement on licenses.

It looks like it might come back to bite us, but its not strictly right to accuse the RFL of 'making it up as they go along'.

The bigger question is whether we'd have a consortium willing to take us over if we are going to be in the Championship?

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:14 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

The bigger question is whether we'd have a consortium willing to take us over if we are going to be in the Championship?

Your final point brings another question to mind - being demoted into the Championship - or even further down - is one thing but it's whether it is possible to ever get back into the top flight again that would be on a lot of peoples minds.

It seems on from last nights news that Rangers could well be starting on the bottom rung of the Scottish leagues, but they can at least get back into the top flight by winning promotion. With SL it seems to be the only route from the Championship is via one of the existing SL clubs going bust, and what happens if several clubs hit the buffers in the near future?