: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:59 pm  

steamingbull02 wrote:

:SLEEPY:

Think its time for me to leave! You lots constent bickering is getting borring (not including bullseye or Bullpower)!!!

Adios!

Or you could just avoid this thread...

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:15 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Hey - You! Haggis muncher! This wouldn't be an example of a patronising tone taken by yourself, and a couple of others, when anyone dares to support McNamara or the coaching staff?

Correct. This wouldn't be an example of a patronising tone.

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:08 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Correct. This wouldn't be an example of a patronising tone.

Look, when people make serious and thoughtful, detailed posts, your one liner dismissing them as performing parrots is patronising, and indeed quite rude, as it goes. But hey

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:22 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Look, when people make serious and thoughtful, detailed posts, your one liner dismissing them as performing parrots is patronising, and indeed quite rude, as it goes. But hey

Fair enough. When you make a serious, thoughful and detailed post I will not call you a parrot.

Incidentally, it was af himself that first coined the term that you and he were seen as "club parrots" and not I. Just so as you know. Wrong again!

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:58 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Incidentally, it was af himself that first coined the term that you and he were seen as "club parrots" and not I. Just so as you know. Wrong again!

So now you're plagiarising your argument from the people you're arguing against? Doesn't that give you a hint you might be wrong?

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:11 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Fair enough. When you make a serious, thoughful and detailed post I will not call you a parrot.

Incidentally, it was af himself that first coined the term that you and he were seen as "club parrots" and not I. Just so as you know. Wrong again!

Are you absolutely sure this time?

I seem to remember you issuing similarly firm denials when it was suggested you called our great young coach 'McBanana'. We all know what happened then don't we?

: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:15 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Fair enough. When you make a serious, thoughful and detailed post I will not call you a parrot.

Incidentally, it was af himself that first coined the term that you and he were seen as "club parrots" and not I. Just so as you know. Wrong again!

The objection is hardly to anyone coining a phrase, but to your rude use of it. But grudging apology accepted. In the light of which I withdraw my claim that your are a "haggis muncher". I am sure that you in reality consume your haggis in a very delicate and seemly manner.

: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:39 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

That's pretty breathtaking, Asim. Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone who either patronises or indeed even criticizes anyone who "dares criticize McNamara or the coaching staff. Your position seems to indicate that we wll think everything at the Bulls is 100% perfect, when nobody has been saying that at all. It is extreme, relentless and unfair criticism that I object to.

Well I haven't said that at all, personally I think it is patronising when someone expresses a view about the coach and are told in return that they think this because "they expect a coach to be Bennett" or "think we should win easily every week". I have no problem with people being patronised, or taken the p**s out of when they write something that leads to it - it is when people put their own, bizarre, translations to points made and try to attack the opinion on what they want it to say, rather than what it did say, that I take offence.

As a supporter I think my "wants" are all pretty realistic, if I thought everyone was doing their best and the team were playing to their best every week but losing every game I could accept that even though I wouldn't be happy about it - I do not think this is happening, there is far too much underachievement, personally and collectively, at Odsal - and after two and a half years I am getting less and less confident that the current coach is the man to do anything about it, based on what I have seen.

That's the end of my input to this thread for now as during the close season all we can do is go around in circles, hopefully I'll be proved wrong in 2009.

: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:15 pm  

Asim wrote:

...personally I think it is patronising when someone expresses a view about the coach and are told in return that they think this because "they expect a coach to be Bennett" or "think we should win easily every week". I have no problem with people being patronised, or taken the p**s out of when they write something that leads to it - it is when people put their own, bizarre, translations to points made and try to attack the opinion on what they want it to say, rather than what it did say, that I take offence.

Hmm...

Asim wrote:

I know some think saying such a thing is heresy, and that no other coach could possibly do any better.

af wrote:

I think you're setting up a straw man there, as well as falling into Eddie's 'Give me Bennett or give me death' mode of thinking.

I don't see how my comment can be called a 'bizarre translation' without the point of yours, that it was in direct response to, falling under the exact same definition.

: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:33 pm  

Beechwood Bull wrote:

Are you absolutely sure this time?

I seem to remember you issuing similarly firm denials when it was suggested you called our great young coach 'McBanana'. We all know what happened then don't we?

Another appalling effort.

Perhaps you should post in tiny writing so I can pretend I did not see it.