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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:21 am  
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I think comments over Orford's attitude while he was hear are unfair, I seem to remember he played in a cup tie against Wire with a severely busted shoulder, but agree his attitude when he landed back down under wasn't good.

Totally agree with that.

Much as it pains me to say anything good about the bloke I've nothing bad to say about his on field work or attitude. We were in the top four when he got crocked and then plummeted after he left. The fact we had no suitable back-up is down to us and his disgraceful conduct after he returned to Australia to recuperate will, of course, be to his eternal shame and down to him alone.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:26 am  
Interestingly on the Giants forum one poster seems to think Rick Stone has stopped the signings of Gaskell Clough and Ferguson. Seems to think Ferguson is off to Wakey now and he is trying to stop the recruitment of Gaskell and Clough.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:40 am  
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Interestingly on the Giants forum one poster seems to think Rick Stone has stopped the signings of Gaskell Clough and Ferguson. Seems to think Ferguson is off to Wakey now and he is trying to stop the recruitment of Gaskell and Clough.

That is interesting, but no more than that, tbh. They're gone from Odsal, and whilst I'd certainly consider Ferguson, who is a pretty whole hearted sort of player, I wouldn't want either of the other two.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:46 am  
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Totally agree with that.

Much as it pains me to say anything good about the bloke I've nothing bad to say about his on field work or attitude. We were in the top four when he got crocked and then plummeted after he left. The fact we had no suitable back-up is down to us and his disgraceful conduct after he returned to Australia to recuperate will, of course, be to his eternal shame and down to him alone.


All I will add to this Matt Orford thing - his mental state after his shoulder crocked was far worse than ever publicised on either side of the world...

He went into a deep and dark place before he returned home and stayed there a while.

I hope he is OK now - I have seen people I know affected by these issues - its pretty scary...
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:16 am  
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That is interesting, but no more than that, tbh. They're gone from Odsal, and whilst I'd certainly consider Ferguson, who is a pretty whole hearted sort of player, I wouldn't want either of the other two.


As Fartown Giants weren't relegated, I don't think there's a legal way they can back out of signing them unless they are injured and can't play, so not sure how they can do this. They could be encouraging them to talk to other clubs, but if they can't get a good gig anywhere else, looks like they might be fringe players. If the rumour that Clough and Gaskell refused to play late last season, some teams might not be too keen to take them on. Gaskell especially has fallen a long way from the end of last season.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:26 am  
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As Fartown Giants weren't relegated, I don't think there's a legal way they can back out of signing them unless they are injured


That's Gaskell released then. If not today, just wait a week or two and he'll be crocked again.

As far as Orford goes, by attitude I was very much referring to the attitude after he got injured and the crap it put us through. Not when he was actually on the pitch at the start of the season. I've heard numerous accounts of his mental state and such, but I've never heard one that didn't make me think he totally stitched us up.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:07 pm  
Dilligaf, A blast from the past.

Come back, Adeybull.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:49 pm  
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As Fartown Giants weren't relegated, I don't think there's a legal way they can back out of signing them unless they are injured and can't play, so not sure how they can do this. They could be encouraging them to talk to other clubs, but if they can't get a good gig anywhere else, looks like they might be fringe players. If the rumour that Clough and Gaskell refused to play late last season, some teams might not be too keen to take them on. Gaskell especially has fallen a long way from the end of last season.
Clough went as far to get an independent physio to say he was unfit to play even after club one said he was fine.
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:22 pm  
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Dilligaf, A blast from the past.

Come back, Adeybull.

That's what I thought!
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Re: 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:02 pm  
Good to see copa Kavanagh on the Scotland scoresheet after giving the Aussies the big don't argue.
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