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| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"No, but as many people pointed out, if Newton had done what he did to Long outside a pub he'd likely have gone down for it.'"
Only it didn't happen outside a pub and he wasn't convicted of any sort of criminal offense as a result. Therefore to compare the possibility of signing a player who has been convicted of a criminal offense is not the same as signing a player who has simply been a thug on the pitch but has no criminal convictions is absurd.
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| This is like the Fielden thread. People seem to want to live in the past (and understandably at the moment). But like Fielden I am not sure that getting Reardan back is a positive. H has shown that he is injury prone and didn't set the world alight when he was fit at Wire.
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| Quote AaronBull="AaronBull"He's been sacked, so yes, contract terminated is just as apt a phrase to coin in this situation.
In further developments, I've heard today that his agent has approached the Bulls and Hull FC about a possible move. The Bulls are yet to get back to him.
Interesting..'"
difficult one really.setting aside his off field issues Reardon is a bradford lad and only left because wire dangled a big wage which we werent prepared to match. he's a former international who can cover wing/fullback and maybe ?.
on the negative side he's proven to be very injury prone since he left and seems to, at best, stopped improving. Also the way he stopped trying in the matches following his signing for wire left a bit of a bad taste.
if he's cheap enough he might give us some more depth and would count as a homegrown player, however it would be a risk and how many fullback.wingers do we need?
regarding the off field stuff, from whats been reported it wasnt as bad as greg bird's alledged offence and plenty on here were prepared to accept him as a bulls player. Also have to wonder whether reardons case would have even gone to court if it didnt involve a couple of relatively high profile RL players.
my position would be we shouldnt bring him back as he isnt a significant improvement over platt/halley and isnt worth the potential bad publicity
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| Quote mat="mat"difficult one really.setting aside his off field issues Reardon is a bradford lad and only left because wire dangled a big wage which we werent prepared to match. he's a former international who can cover wing/fullback and maybe Centre?.
on the negative side he's proven to be very injury prone since he left and seems to, at best, stopped improving. Also the way he stopped trying in the matches following his signing for wire left a bit of a bad taste.
if he's cheap enough he might give us some more depth and would count as a homegrown player, however it would be a risk and how many fullback.wingers do we need?
regarding the off field stuff, from whats been reported it wasnt as bad as greg bird's alledged offence and plenty on here were prepared to accept him as a bulls player. Also have to wonder whether reardons case would have even gone to court if it didnt involve a couple of relatively high profile RL players.
my position would be we shouldnt bring him back as he isnt a significant improvement over platt/halley and isnt worth the potential bad publicity'" Stop talking silly.
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| Quote mat="mat"difficult one really.setting aside his off field issues Reardon is a bradford lad and only left because wire dangled a big wage which we werent prepared to match. he's a former international who can cover wing/fullback and maybe Centre?.
on the negative side he's proven to be very injury prone since he left and seems to, at best, stopped improving. Also the way he stopped trying in the matches following his signing for wire left a bit of a bad taste.
if he's cheap enough he might give us some more depth and would count as a homegrown player, however it would be a risk and how many fullback.wingers do we need?
regarding the off field stuff, from whats been reported it wasnt as bad as greg bird's alledged offence and plenty on here were prepared to accept him as a bulls player. Also have to wonder whether reardons case would have even gone to court if it didnt involve a couple of relatively high profile RL players.
my position would be we shouldnt bring him back as he isnt a significant improvement over platt/halley and isnt worth the potential bad publicity'"
I like the look of Halley but McNamara does not seem to fancy him.
Is it just because you have Platt (needs to improve decision making)
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| Quote Dawson="Dawson"I like the look of Halley but McNamara does not seem to fancy him.
Is it just because you have Platt (needs to improve decision making)'"
thing is halley brings a different set of problems to the fullback position. seems a lot of people only remember the good things he does at fullback and gloss over the errors, same with sykes, whereas with platt they only remember the mistakes and gloss over the good things. Im not convinced that either halley or platt are the long term solution to fullback but platt has shown a steady improvement all season and been close to motm a couple of times (obviously ignoring the slip and the attempted pass behind the line on sunday) and deserves to continue at fb for the moment. Halley should be getting more gametime as well but think he'd be more use taking sheriffes spot or at least sharing it off the bench.
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| I was pleased when Reardon joined us because I thought he was a good player at the Bulls, although a fella I worked with who supported Bradford reckoned he was another McAvoy, had early promise but stood still rather than improving with experience.
I can't remember him standing out much in his first two seasons with us (the latter two have been a write off with injury) but one thing in Reardon's credit, every year (when he's fit) he's one of the top tackle busters in SL.
Probably find out more on April 23 when him and Pryce get sentenced.
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| Quote mat="mat"thing is halley brings a different set of problems to the fullback position. seems a lot of people only remember the good things he does at fullback and gloss over the errors, same with sykes, whereas with platt they only remember the mistakes and gloss over the good things. Im not convinced that either halley or platt are the long term solution to fullback but platt has shown a steady improvement all season and been close to motm a couple of times (obviously ignoring the slip and the attempted pass behind the line on sunday) and deserves to continue at fb for the moment. Halley should be getting more gametime as well but think he'd be more use taking sheriffes spot or at least sharing it off the bench.'"
Not a bad assessment that, IMO.
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| Quote mat="mat" Halley should be getting more gametime as well but think he'd be more use taking sheriffes spot or at least sharing it off the bench.'"
Two wingers sharing a position seems a waste of an interchange spot.
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| Quote Cibaman="Cibaman"Two wingers sharing a position seems a waste of an interchange spot.'"
given the general shortage of backs in the squad and the fact one of the wingers can also cover injuries to fullback and maybe halfback at a pinch it may be our best option. alternative is crookes on bench who can only cover spots or give hyde or horton a shot.
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| Quote Dawson="Dawson"I like the look of Halley but McNamara does not seem to fancy him.
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| Quote Visage="Visage"McNamara doesn't pick his boys on looks though'"
Explains why Deacs over the last few years has frantically tried to get rid of his schoolboy cutie look.
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| [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13682[/url
Please, I would take him back.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13682[/url
Please, I would take him back.'" Why.
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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"Why.'"
Seconded. Why?
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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"Why.'"
Because once he's match fit he's better than what we've currently got.
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| & if he's sent down on April 23rd, then what ?
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| Quote Visage="Visage"& if he's sent down on April 23rd, then what ?'"
Then I look like an idiot. If he isn't sent down we should take a punt.
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| Shouldnt go anywhere near IMO.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"Then I look like an idiot. If he isn't sent down we should take a punt.'"
We don't need yet another fullback/winger. We need to save precious cash in case a decent halfback becomes available.
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| Not really played alot of rugby either over this season and last. Too risky.
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| I don't understand why anyone thinks we should be interested in Reardon, unless some see it as essential that the squad has a player who assaults women in it, and he's the currently available option.
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| Quote mat="mat"
regarding the off field stuff, from whats been reported it wasnt as bad as greg bird's alledged offence and plenty on here were prepared to accept him as a bulls player. Also have to wonder whether reardons case would have even gone to court if it didnt involve a couple of relatively high profile RL players.
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Quote mat="redeverready"Stop talking silly.'"
its not silly read the court transcript
"After shouting insults at his wife, Reardon grabbed her arm, causing three bruises. "
can you imagine a 999 call from Some rough Council Estate in Bradford(you must have em)
"the police please. Ive just heard a man call his ex wife a dirty slut and he's grabbed her by the arm it looks like it might leave a couple of bruises"
not a chance would it get a response in a million years
however "please help Leon Pryce and Stuart Reardon are here threatening to beat me up..."
then thats different....
I would imagine Its Tony Smith putting down a marker that anyone "Drinking" is not going to be tollerated.....rather than getting rid of a "wife beater"....
so he's probably unfortunate in that respect.... Briers is probably the next man sweating....
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| Quote the flying biscuit="the flying biscuit"its not silly read the court transcript
"After shouting insults at his wife, Reardon grabbed her arm, causing three bruises. "
can you imagine a 999 call from Some rough Council Estate in Bradford(you must have em)
"the police please. Ive just heard a man call his ex wife a dirty slut and he's grabbed her by the arm it looks like it might leave a couple of bruises"
not a chance would it get a response in a million years
however "please help Leon Pryce and Stuart Reardon are here threatening to beat me up..."
then thats different....
I would imagine Its Tony Smith putting down a marker that anyone "Drinking" is not going to be tollerated.....rather than getting rid of a "wife beater"....
so he's probably unfortunate in that respect.... Briers is probably the next man sweating....'" So kicking in the house door had nothing to do with it.
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