: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:09 pm  

mat wrote:

some good points there adey. and tbf we've had solomona and tupou sidelined all season who between them will have been taking up a decent chunk of the cap whilst not contributing anything. so while it may seem as if we were well below cap this year in terms of the players on the field, when you include tupou and solo I reckon we probably only had enough free cap space for one decent player.Next years a different matter. Whilst we've spent a bit on improved deals for halley and lynch and maybe a very slightly improved deal for sykes plus bringing in hall, when you look at some of names that its looking like we're losing then we must have enough space to bring in at least 2 or 3 quality players. whether we can afford to spend upto the cap next year given this years attendances without going into a loss making situation is another matter entirely.

The club never had any spare cap space the Bird deal was all dependant on Solomona being released.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:17 pm  

the inquisitor wrote:

The club never had any spare cap space the Bird deal was all dependant on Solomona being released.

I assume you actually mean Tupou?

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:19 pm  

You cant release a player and not expect to pay him, if he walked into another side and got a pay rise fair enough he might agree to being released from his contract without payment, but you cant just so bye bye no more money for you.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:32 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

I assume you actually mean Tupou?

Nope Solomona.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:34 pm  

ritz wrote:

You cant release a player and not expect to pay him, if he walked into another side and got a pay rise fair enough he might agree to being released from his contract without payment, but you cant just so bye bye no more money for you.

You can if you trying to do him for breach of discipline.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:06 am  

Thats sacking them not releasing from contract, you cant sack someone for being overweight/unfit.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:33 am  

ritz wrote:

Thats sacking them not releasing from contract, you cant sack someone for being overweight/unfit.

TBH it's the same thing realy they are still being released from their contract. Plus you can terminate a contract for being overweight and unfit it falls under the performance clause in the contract.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:44 am  

To be fair when he was on the pitch he was performing, unlike a load that are fit but aren`t.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:56 am  

I'm a big of Morrison but unfortunately he hasn't played enough. He will be on a decent wage up there too. With Morro, Newton and Cook going it does free up a fair bit of salary space.

The signing of Hall is a start, a good solid player who does plenty of work. L'Estrange would be a good replacement for Newton. The big area of recruitment next year has to be a top quality half and a game winning centre.

Plus I'd like more game time for the kids that are coming through. I don't want us to be signing any 'randoms' just to make the squad up, I'd rather give one of the kids a go.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:22 pm  

kingmonkey wrote:

I'm a big of Morrison but unfortunately he hasn't played enough. He will be on a decent wage up there too. With Morro, Newton and Cook going it does free up a fair bit of salary space.

The signing of Hall is a start, a good solid player who does plenty of work. L'Estrange would be a good replacement for Newton. The big area of recruitment next year has to be a top quality half and a game winning centre.

Plus I'd like more game time for the kids that are coming through. I don't want us to be signing any 'randoms' just to make the squad up, I'd rather give one of the kids a go.

I agree with that 100%. And I'd add that the rest of this season needs to include more game time for any reserve/academy players we think might be 1st teamers next season. We're not going to win anything this year (including two or three games on the spin) so we might as well use some of these remaining games to test out some ideas for next season when its appropriate. (IE play two prospects and give them 40 min each a game or similar but dont throw too many in the deep end at once.)

On the recruitment I've said before and I'll say again that IMHO the success or failure of our recruitment this off season starts and ends with 6/7/9. Get this wrong and we can forget next year.