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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:31 pm  
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I think it was Cibaman??? argued a good few weeks ago - after one of the earlier hang-em-high threads - that by July it should be clear how things have turned out, and that would be the time to decide on any changes on the coaching front.

Well, its July.
It should have never been left this late.
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:41 pm  
I agree, it's time for Mac to go now, as long as a good replacement can be found and were not stuck with a clown from his backroom staff for the rest of the year. That way, the new coach would have a say on recruitment for next year, and he may be able to start bringing a bit of belief back into the team now, and get to know the place, and the players.
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:45 pm  
The second most successful coach of the SL era has agreed to take over a side flirting with relegation to the third tier next season.

Now I'm not saying we should have gone for Millward, but given that, do people seriously believe no-one with any calibre would be interested in the Bradford job were it to become available?
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:48 pm  
Yes but at this point the job does not appear to be available. In fact far from it the present coach seems firmly rooted in place.....
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:53 pm  
Another season(2010) and if we don`t improve macca will be gone or he will come to his senses and will resign.
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:02 pm  
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Another season(2010) and if we don`t improve macca will be gone or he will come to his senses and will resign.


Another season like this?!

How low are you wanting attendances to drop?

P.s. Are we now at a all time low for average super league attendance at home?
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:09 pm  
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Arguments for:
I'm sure by now everyone knows the AF position which is that we can't replace McNamara in case the incoming coach is worse. This is of course will always be the case no matter what happens, as things can always get worse, but if we never make that change we can never know, so essentially the argument is circuitous.

The second but connected argument is that no-one of any quality would want the job, but once again if we take that seriously we wouldn't get rid of McN and we'd never know if that were the case. The other difficulty with this argument is that both Tony Smith and Nathan Brown have taken over struggling/under performing teams during McN's tenure and have improved them enormously. So whilst we don't know if either of these coaches would have come to the Bulls we do know that coaches have been available that would have likely made a significant improvement.

The third argument is that McN is doing something (usually poorly specified) to 're-build' the club and that this will yield some future benefits. However given his lack of success with the team he has currently built this also seems unlikely.

A fourth argument concerns finances, which are all a little opaque, however it is apparent that declining attendances and the possibility of reduced revenue from sponsors because of a lack of success might contribute as much to a worsening of our financial position as any costs involved in removing McNamara.

I would have loved him to be successful, particularly as a young british coach, but that hasn't happened and the time has come.


I have not yet called for Macca to go. But I would not be surprised or too disappointed if he was gone before the next game. And I say the following in full knowledge of the quite justified mitigating circumstances behind the scenes and the poisoned chalice that he was handed;

I agree with a lot of the above quote, but the highlighted bit is what's really worried me for a few weeks. We can only take other peoples views on how good and important a job Macca is doing in the "rebuilding/attracting talent/being our USP etc" Problem is, we as paying speccies only get to judge his competence for ourselves on match days, and he is clearly lacking in this department IMHO. Weather its a disorganised sliding defence, dodgy use of interchanges, or seemingly producing a team not being switched on for certain games and being so for others, which is a state of mind and culture within the team that should be created by the coaching team and is clearly missing.

So, we see his obvious weaknesses on match day, and that is all we can go on, so calls for his head are easy to understand. And my main worry is that who is to say that he will show better judgement with the rebuilding project than his management of 1st team results? Do we just trust to faith? What if he does as bad a job in that process as he is doing in overseeing results this season?

I dont know the answers, none of us do. But I will guess that Macca is doing as good a job as he can, that Hood will stand by him, he will be our coach for next season, and that we will just have to trust that Macca and Hood can see the future better than a lot of us......
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:24 pm  
If the reasons for him to stay are the excellent work going on behind the scenes then perhaps he should concentrate full time on that and bring someone else in to manage the First Team. There is absolutely no shame in holding up your hands and admitting defeat, whilst working yourself into a position for which your talents are better suited. If he is making a difference in respect of the youth structure etc I'm sure no one would be against him continuing with the club in that role.

It's beginning to get to the stage where there seems to be better things to do on a Sunday afternoon. That would have been unimaginable three years ago.

When it comes to renewing season tickets just how many people really will fork out to watch the same old trash week in, week out?

Surely to goodness he's been given long enough?

(You know that next week we will beat Wigan and all bets will be off again!)
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:36 pm  
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Another season like this?!

How low are you wanting attendances to drop?

P.s. Are we now at a all time low for average super league attendance at home?


So sacking macca is the answer ?
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: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:40 pm  
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Well, its July.


So what do you think mate?

Macca in or Macca out?

Give us a nice simple one. lol
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