We assisted in creating this monster we now have to control. What benefits do we get from being there? Access to oil & drugs?

If it was that straight forward and transparent you'd have a point,but that isn't the case.
Check what's been going on there before 9/11 and look deeper at how these countries were run and who/what they supported!!

Oh I see. Manipulating the democratic process, supporting unelected dictatorships & complicit in the use of torture & oppression. We can't stand for that. Never have, never will.

I for one fully respect the armed forces and what they stand for and would have applauded had i been at the game. I wont however treat them all as heroes, some have carried out truely Heroic acts above and beyond what is expected when they carry out their DUTY and deserve the tag "hero" others have carried out the job they signed up for and as i said they deserve respect for doing the job, lets not forget they dont choose where they are stationed or the enemy they fight they carry out their duty for Queen and country (dont get me started on the monarchy).

They do choose to join the army though don't they. What do they expect to be doing? It's not tiddly winks is it?

I would like to suggest there being a WMD under or in McNamara's seat, please can we take it away for investigation (whilst he's sat on it) and let it be replaced whilst it is interogated, waterboarded and locked up without trial for the next 2 years, unfornuntely Steve would have to stay with it as he is the owner and person responsible for it's actions.

My evidence is the destruction of a world championship club to relegation fodder in 3 years, he has brought terror, fear and worse than all apathy to our once great clubs supporters.

We can replace Steve's chair with a more experienced chair with someone (anyone) else sat on it.

I would suggest should our great nations army...sorry all our armed forces perform this task (nothing else seems to budge him) then an even greater majority would clap them...perhaps even Terry







Being serious, something different and i kinda enjoyed it. Lets stop the bickering, people have different views and opinions and if we didn't it wouldn't be interesting...now moving onto people without children parking in mother and baby spaces...............

And people parking in cycle lanes.

And people in cars who drive all the way to the front of a queue and then indicate to be let in....grrrr

I would say that the applause for theses lads was as warm and prolonged as I think I have ever heard at odsal, it went on throughout the whole presentations and a lot of people in the stand made it a standing ovation. I am very proud that the overwhelming majority of fans (both clubs) feel that way.

I despise those who feel big about not clapping, especially those who only have self-interest at heart - "what have they done for ME ME ME") I am grateful to live in a country where even the mealy-mouthed, selfish, waste-of space oafs such as these have the right of free speech, ironically preserved for them by the blood and sacrifice of millions of former service men and women.

Yeah, that about sums it up for me.

Yep, everyone in the Coral stand was applauding all the way through too, including the two sides that had played in the curtain raiser.

I was there with a few people who had never been to Odsal before (and a few who had never been to an RL game) and they all commented what a very respectful and nice reception the half time ceremony got.


It was also quite strange to note that they all thought the pre-match entertainment was excellent. Perhaps we only criticise it because we see a similar thing every week and remember when it was a bit more? Those new to the game were quite impressed.

Something Ryan always mentions at fans fora.

I think we have a tendency to think that's just an excuse, but I witnessed first hand yesterday that he's spot on with it.