: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:24 pm  

bullfan away wrote:

I'll be renewing for the above reasons also, i've been following the Bulls for too long to just turn my back on them.

Clearly the 40 odd % of people saying No are jonny come latelys who have only been following them since the success on the field started.

If you turn your back on them now the next time you turn around there may be nothing left.

I'll be renewing because I'm a fan of RL and Bradford are the team I support. However I'm not sure it's helpful dismissing newer fans - we need more of these not less and we need to keep the one's we've got. Money is tight for a lot of people and there is a lot of competition for discretionary spending. A friend has missed two matches this season and has consequently failed to see us win at home, he first bought a season ticket in 2006 and travels 80 miles to attend, you could hardly blame him not renewing given how frustrating some of our home performances have been, though I imagine he will.

I would have thought most season ticket holders will renew, although I might be a bit over optimistic on that, but I fear we've lost the walk up audience and I'm not sure how they will be attracted back for the foreseeable future.

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm  

anarkik wrote:

I'll be renewing because I'm a fan of RL and Bradford are the team I support. However I'm not sure it's helpful dismissing newer fans - we need more of these not less and we need to keep the one's we've got. Money is tight for a lot of people and there is a lot of competition for discretionary spending. A friend has missed two matches this season and has consequently failed to see us win at home, he first bought a season ticket in 2006 and travels 80 miles to attend, you could hardly blame him not renewing given how frustrating some of our home performances have been, though I imagine he will.

I would have thought most season ticket holders will renew, although I might be a bit over optimistic on that, but I fear we've lost the walk up audience and I'm not sure how they will be attracted back for the foreseeable future.

I think you're right, I have a feeling that we probably have around 6000 stalwart season ticket holders and i too reckon most will renew - as they always have. The biggest problem in terms of next years walk-up crowds (so far) has been not so much the league position, but just how many times we've sent home the fans from Odsal fuming, baffled and despondent and it's not as simple as the results, it's what we've regularly served up and it's how we've contrived to lose some games.

[Bullseye]

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:45 pm  

The "home" fans have had a torrid time this year. Unless there's room for optimism before next season I imagine many will be "picking their games" rather than buying a season ticket.

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:30 pm  

ill probably renew but ill be hoping for a couple of big signings and tbh a change of coach because unfortunatly for the 1st time in a long while ive actually started to dread having to treck to odsal every week to watch slow, boring, predictable rugby, its only through loyalty and my love for the club thats keeping me going. i can see why families are turning their back on the club its just not enjoyable anymore.

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:37 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

The "home" fans have had a torrid time this year. Unless there's room for optimism before next season I imagine many will be "picking their games" rather than buying a season ticket.

IMO Hall and L'Estrange aren't going to be the answer solely on their own

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:03 pm  

redeverready wrote:

IMO Hall and L'Estrange aren't going to be the answer solely on their own

Certainly not, but they are strong signings and will improve us. But they are not the exciting signings we need at halfback and possibly centre. It is probably unlikely we will sign a centre but a big name halfback would do a lot to create some positivity.

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:47 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Once again with Tupou there has been contradicting stories. One was that all he had got was two weeks notice then inthe T&A the other day said he was working out his 6 months notice.

Here's a bit more on the contradicting stories, from Gareth over on Substadard:

G1 wrote:

hey were able to give him 6 months notice as per the clause in the RFl's standard contract. He challenged the decision to give him notice. They reached an agreement to allow him to leave before his 6 months notice expired to take up employment elsewhere.

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:57 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Ironic how the club thought it sense to terminate Tupou's contract yet they cannot afford to do the same with MacNamara's.

Two points:

1. We don't know the cost of terminating Tupou, but the MOST will have been 6m notice and that will have been in accordance with the standard SL contract we assume. And anyway, if it WAS 6m notice, it will have become much less than that because the club released him (early...?) to take up a new contract in Oz.

2. Who says the club wants to terminate Macca's contract? You are being disingenuous here. It is people on HERE pointing out that IF the club wanted to terminate his contract (hypothetical, and absolutely no evidence to suggest they do) THEN it could be more than the club could afford. This in response to the clamour on HERE to sack the coach, pointing out that the demands of the mob might just be a tad impracticable - IF the club was minded to listen to the mob.

Nothing at all ironic about it since you are not comparing like situations. More like you making a bit of mischief again!

: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:18 am  

chpntpsr wrote:

Will be renewing but will be cutting down on away matches and going to more Sheffield Wednesday matches

That's an improvement?

: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:59 am  

Adeybull wrote:

Two points:

1. We don't know the cost of terminating Tupou, but the MOST will have been 6m notice and that will have been in accordance with the standard SL contract we assume. And anyway, if it WAS 6m notice, it will have become much less than that because the club released him (early...?) to take up a new contract in Oz.

2. Who says the club wants to terminate Macca's contract? You are being disingenuous here. It is people on HERE pointing out that IF the club wanted to terminate his contract (hypothetical, and absolutely no evidence to suggest they do) THEN it could be more than the club could afford. This in response to the clamour on HERE to sack the coach, pointing out that the demands of the mob might just be a tad impracticable - IF the club was minded to listen to the mob.

Nothing at all ironic about it since you are not comparing like situations. More like you making a bit of mischief again!

Of course I'm making mischief, it's my raison d'etre. TBH I'm not bothered whether Bulls sack Macca or not (I genuinely like the guy), but I would like to see a successful Deaconless Bulls team. I have no evidence the club want to sack Macca, it was a response to those who think he should be retained for financial reasons. I reckon 3/4 of pro sporting clubs in this country must be skint. I cannot recollect any other club using the same excuse to keep a coach though.