Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:06 pm  

Sorry it came to this but as I said a while ago it was coming. Some things the fans need to know: The debilitating finance for next season regards the contracts the club entered into with players who the RFL had warned them couldn't be registered, yet they still signed them. The people responsible for these signing are the Head Coach and general manager who was in charge of monitoring the salary cap.

You don't sign players like Lachlan Burr if he can't be registered so the only reason you would do it is as a last ditch effort to boost season ticket sales. Marc Green has obtained all the season ticket money by deception.

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:07 pm  

debaser wrote:

I don't see anyone arguing with you. The chances of any new Bulls side relegating anyone are unlikely. You are forgetting that as it stands any new team has no players, not one and no coach etc. With a 12pt deduction, I'm not sure how you see them competing for anything other than not finishing a distant last.

Building from the bottom is best all round but upsets the RFLs plans.

There is always more than meets the eye though, I would be willing to be the RFL are offering an extraordinary increase in funding for next year, and possibly offering lower rent. Even it all comes to just one million that is still more budget than 90% of the teams in this division. The only players realistically available this time of year are the players you have just made redundant. They are also likely desperate for some money, so wouldn't be able to stand on principle about coming back. A few signing bonuses here and there to cover lost wages and all is well.

Next thing you know Oldham are relegated despite honouring every £ of debt they had and despite not signing an unsustainable squad such as Bradford have done.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:09 pm  

The people I really feel sorry for are those who signed/resigned to play this year having knocked back offers from other teams, they must feel like have a double kick in the nuts

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:10 pm  

I so hope we get a team this year, and then we hammer Halifax at the Shay.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:11 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

What a load of nonsense. Why do the RFL insist on making up rules as they go along. If a new club forms it should be made to start in Championship 1 and earn its right to play in Championship. It devalues the Championship!

What happens if you sign all the same players and relagate some other team that has honoured its debts at the cost of putting out a competitive team?

The RFL unlike you continues to recognize the immense value to the game and all the other clubs you mention of a Bradford Bulls remaining in operation. A new club is not what they need or want. You appear to not get this basic point.

Accordingly the [RFL] Board has agreed that the wider interests of the sport is best satisfied if it offers a place in the Kingstone Press Championship to any new club in Bradford and that such a club start the 2017 season on minus twelve points.

Your ignorant prattle about honouring debts is astonishing. The club has paid the ultimate price by being liquidated. That company has GONE. If anyone starts a new company and reforms the club, then plainly it won't be at the expense of any creditors of the liquidated company. You're desperately trying to make connections that don't exist.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:12 pm  

From the Bulls Facebook page. Some of the wording is interesting.



"There was fundamental uncertainty over a series of topics, including the quality of the management information available"

Light words cast the darkest shade.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:13 pm  

daveyz999 wrote:

I so hope we get a team this year, and then we hammer Halifax at the Shay.

massively this disgusting what some of them spouting

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:14 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

If we are about to see the majority of the team walk away then I don't think I can watch it happen.

It's pointless staying in the championship if we don't have a championship standard team.

Totally agree

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:14 pm  

vbfg wrote:

From the Bulls Facebook page. Some of the wording is interesting.



"There was fundamental uncertainty over a series of topics, including the quality of the management information available"

Light words cast the darkest shade.

Yes. Mismanagement.

But I think that's pretty obvious now...

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:15 pm  

That's one word for it. I do not think that is what is being implied there.