: Tue May 26, 2009 7:57 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

Just digressing slightly back to a point Asim made.

18,000 capacity?
I know it's been a while since we had a crowd that big, but you'd like to think we could be back up there before long.

What was the capacity of the cheaper scheme?

If we get to the point where 18k capacity isn't enough then I'll be very happy!! I suspect the club would be too!

A lot of stadia have been expanded when the need arises. If we're packing out a brand new stadium every other week and having the football there all winter we might be able to afford it too!!

: Tue May 26, 2009 8:05 pm  

AndreaB wrote:

If we get to the point where 18k capacity isn't enough then I'll be very happy!! I suspect the club would be too!

A lot of stadia have been expanded when the need arises. If we're packing out a brand new stadium every other week and having the football there all winter we might be able to afford it too!!

Don't get me wrong....I'd tear their arm off it was a certainty!!

Taking the Bulls out of it for a moment, it just seemed strange, given they're promoting the fact other sporting events would hopfully be held there......finals, semis, surely a bigger stadium would be needed?

: Tue May 26, 2009 8:06 pm  

MDF wrote:

To the best of my recollection, the only thing I have seen on this was from last week's T&A, which stated "The project’s steering group hopes to bring in £18.5m in commercial retail and sponsorship, £15m in contributions from its primary partners – such as the Bulls, Bradford College, Bradford University, NHS Bradford and Airedale – as well as more from Yorkshire Forward." If there hasn't been anything else, we're left with an undisclosed share of £15m.

surely the undisclosed 15m is the money the council has earmarked for the project from the money received from the sale of the airport.

: Tue May 26, 2009 8:14 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

Don't get me wrong....I'd tear their arm off it was a certainty!!

Taking the Bulls out of it for a moment, it just seemed strange, given they're promoting the fact other sporting events would hopfully be held there......finals, semis, surely a bigger stadium would be needed?

Would Bradford City need more than 18,000 capacity? Would any other local sporting side?
I'd rather have to make sure I have a ticket each time and get it near capacity every time it's used than have a half empty stadium nearly all the time. Clubs which have to turn people away at the gate seldom suffer much from it.
Perhaps there will be more detail available at the forum. Maybe extra layers can be added or corners put in if the capacity starts to fall short of demand.

: Tue May 26, 2009 8:52 pm  

I want at least a good area of standing.

: Tue May 26, 2009 8:59 pm  

mat wrote: MDF wrote: To the best of my recollection, the only thing I have seen on this was from last week's T&A, which stated "The project’s steering group hopes to bring in £18.5m in commercial retail and sponsorship, £15m in contributions from its primary partners – such as the Bulls, Bradford College, Bradford University, NHS Bradford and Airedale – as well as more from Yorkshire Forward." If there hasn't been anything else, we're left with an undisclosed share of £15m. surely the undisclosed 15m is the money the council has earmarked for the project from the money received from the sale of the airport. No, it's just a coincidence that that is also £15m. The article refers to guaranteed funding of £15m from the airport sale and £4.1m from Yorkshire Forward. All the rest of the money is currently hypothetical but includes a further £15m from the parties involved (as per my quote above). Then there is £18.5m in commercial retail & sponsorship & £14.8m in grants. If it all came in, we'd be well past the lower figure, but apart from the first £19.1m, it's all currently kite-flying. So to refine my answer to Guess Who, it appears that the Council expects the Bulls to pay an undisclosed share of £15m.

mat wrote: MDF wrote: To the best of my recollection, the only thing I have seen on this was from last week's T&A, which stated "The project’s steering group hopes to bring in £18.5m in commercial retail and sponsorship, £15m in contributions from its primary partners – such as the Bulls, Bradford College, Bradford University, NHS Bradford and Airedale – as well as more from Yorkshire Forward." If there hasn't been anything else, we're left with an undisclosed share of £15m. surely the undisclosed 15m is the money the council has earmarked for the project from the money received from the sale of the airport. No, it's just a coincidence that that is also £15m. The article refers to guaranteed funding of £15m from the airport sale and £4.1m from Yorkshire Forward. All the rest of the money is currently hypothetical but includes a further £15m from the parties involved (as per my quote above). Then there is £18.5m in commercial retail & sponsorship & £14.8m in grants. If it all came in, we'd be well past the lower figure, but apart from the first £19.1m, it's all currently kite-flying. So to refine my answer to Guess Who, it appears that the Council expects the Bulls to pay an undisclosed share of £15m.

: Tue May 26, 2009 9:01 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

I want at least a good area of standing.

Yes I want that too, but what would you rather have?

a. An all seater stadium like Hull FC and Wigan have, which can hold other events and therefore reduce the costs of stadium upkeep to the Bulls. Other people would be able to pay towards the upkeep and so we'd have more money to spend on players.

b. A mixed stadium like Warrington have. No football team either in the top 2 divisions or wanting to get there would be able to use the stadium because the rules for football stadia at the top levels don't allow for standing spectators.

c. Keeping what we have and seeing all our money go to just keeping the stadium from crumbling to bits.

I'd rather forgo my preference for standing at matches if it meant a better future for the Bulls.

: Tue May 26, 2009 9:06 pm  

AndreaB wrote:

Yes I want that too, but what would you rather have?

a. An all seater stadium like Hull FC and Wigan have, which can hold other events and therefore reduce the costs of stadium upkeep to the Bulls. Other people would be able to pay towards the upkeep and so we'd have more money to spend on players.

b. A mixed stadium like Warrington have. No football team either in the top 2 divisions or wanting to get there would be able to use the stadium because the rules for football stadia at the top levels don't allow for standing spectators.

c. Keeping what we have and seeing all our money go to just keeping the stadium from crumbling to bits.

I'd rather forgo my preference for standing at matches if it meant a better future for the Bulls.

As would I, but I feel at all seaters the atmosphere tends to be duller because when people are sat down they are generally quieter. But yes, i'd sacrifice my own wants for the good of my rugby team.

: Tue May 26, 2009 9:07 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

As would I, but I feel at all seaters the atmosphere tends to be duller because when people are sat down they are generally quieter. But yes, i'd sacrifice my own wants for the good of my rugby team.

The KC has far more atmosphere than the Boulevard ever did IMO

: Tue May 26, 2009 9:08 pm  

AndreaB wrote:

The KC has far more atmosphere than the Boulevard ever did IMO

One off. Central Park or JJB? Galph..... oh no, Huddersfield has never had an atmosphere.