Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:44 pm  

Just slow down a little.
Pyrah makes a statement and all of a sudden it is treated as fact and condemnation of this situation results.
Isn't Lowe still in NZ due to not being able to fly.
Does anyone actually know if Toovey hasn't told the club he isn't coming back and the club may already have a coach signed who is advising Chalmers.
I know it is a slow news month or two but as I see it whoever is talking to the players - possibly Chalmers, he is doing a reasonable job at the moment persuading them to stay or come to us.
How many of the signings so far are terrible signings?
I would wait and see before having a go at people just for the sake of it.
If we do sign another 10 decent players then I think we will have a decent squad.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:51 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

Just slow down a little.
Pyrah makes a statement and all of a sudden it is treated as fact and condemnation of this situation results.
Isn't Lowe still in NZ due to not being able to fly.
Does anyone actually know if Toovey hasn't told the club he isn't coming back and the club may already have a coach signed who is advising Chalmers.
I know it is a slow news month or two but as I see it whoever is talking to the players - possibly Chalmers, he is doing a reasonable job at the moment persuading them to stay or come to us.
How many of the signings so far are terrible signings?
I would wait and see before having a go at people just for the sake of it.
If we do sign another 10 decent players then I think we will have a decent squad.

Chalmers has said he does

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:28 pm  

Maybe Chalmers attitude is that he will sign the players and that it is then the coaches job(whoever that may be) to coach them.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:50 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Maybe Chalmers attitude is that he will sign the players and that it is then the coaches job(whoever that may be) to coach them.

Or maybe its, Ryan, Chisholm, Oakes, Butterworth are bloody good players amd we have to act now to sign them.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:21 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

Perhaps whoever gave him a contract until November, when the season ended in September, shares the blame?

Erm that's when a rugby league year runs too
1st of December to 31st of November.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:31 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

I would wait and see before having a go at people just for the sake of it.

Not having a go at anyone "for the sake of it". Perhaps "slow down" and don't misread what is being discussed?

Bulliac wrote:

Agree it isn't really good, but what is the alternative? If we don't sign good players when they are available, or don't sign up our young academy players then we risk losing them. To be honest, I think that would be much worse than sitting on our hands until a new coach is hired - if indeed we'll be needing a new coach. Though I strongly suspect we will be,

Absolutely, in the situation we're in, the owners signing players (especially the young lads who we want to keep) is absolutely better than leaving it and waiting to pick up all the unsigned dross again. But we shouldn't be in this situation, and I again can't help feeling that this messing about with Mr. Indecisive is really not helping the club's preparation for 2018. If it hasn't been sorted already, it needs sorting NOW, regardless of whether Geoff wants another few days on an Aussie beach before he makes his mind up.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:21 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Erm that's when a rugby league year runs too
1st of December to 31st of November.

How is that relevant?

Tony Smith left Warrington 'at the end of the season' and they have already appointed another coach. They didn't wait until November 30th and then start looking for a new coach...

Granted, he presumably got paid until the end of November, and that could happen with Toovey. Are we just going to wait until November 30th to see if he wants to stick around, then start looking for a coach after the squad is signed and pre-season has started?

Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. Just pay the guy his November salary and everyone can move on!

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:08 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

How is that relevant?

Tony Smith left Warrington 'at the end of the season' and they have already appointed another coach. They didn't wait until November 30th and then start looking for a new coach...

Granted, he presumably got paid until the end of November, and that could happen with Toovey. Are we just going to wait until November 30th to see if he wants to stick around, then start looking for a coach after the squad is signed and pre-season has started?

Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. Just pay the guy his November salary and everyone can move on!

Or we could use his advice on players/coaches to recruit while we have him and look for a new coach at the same time. No point paying someone off and letting them leave early, we don't have money to waste like that.

[Bulliac]

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 pm  

josefw wrote:

Or we could use his advice on players/coaches to recruit while we have him and look for a new coach at the same time. No point paying someone off and letting them leave early, we don't have money to waste like that.

There is no question of 'leaving early', if his contract runs to the end of November, that is when it ends.

What would have been nice, would have been to give some kind of clue as to his likely intentions, so the club can move forward. Maybe he's still helping in recruitment, though I've not seen any Aussie based players turning up yet..maybe they're still to be announced? Maybe he has an eye out for a potential coach in Aussie? Who knows, but if he's not going to be here next year and not helping in the recruitment, it would seem he's definitely having his cake and eating it...anyway, isn't Maggie May looking for someone able to do that? Could be a job going in the UK after all, just not at Odsal!

[Bullseye]

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:28 pm  

As has been said I’d rather us be getting on with signing up our better players than sitting around waiting for the head coach situation to get sorted. We seem to be doing that thank God. I would expect Toovey has told Chalmers who is and isn’t worth keeping.

I’m not really sure what the hold up is over the head coach position. The owner needs to make his mind up and decide that if Toovey hasn’t confirmed by a certain date it’s time to move on. At some point Chalmers will have to make a decision. Then things like assistants can be sorted out and a strength and conditioning coach recruited or the team will be arriving at pre season looking like Brendan Hill. In the meantime so far so good. I hear we don’t have a club doctor or physio either yet so the sooner this is sorted the better too.