Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:22 am  

Which is easy now. You are either a troll or an idiot and I can save myself a little time by not having to read your ignorant bilge.[/quote]

I take it I am 'owned'

LOL LOL LOL - bless you

The clock still ticks ................

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:38 am  

Tarquin Fuego wrote:

I take it I am 'owned' ....

No, you're just a really, really pis$poor troll, so poor that not only haven't you been able to get a rise, you can't even see it.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:41 am  

Stul wrote:

. You are either a troll or an idiot and I can save myself a little time by not having to read your ignorant bilge.

He could be both

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:46 am  

M@islebugs wrote:

I argued at the time that the lease wasn't a bail out but in light of what's happened your assertion is almost certainly correct.
1. Correct.
2. They didn't prop up the Bulls. The Bulls collapsed anyway. They merely prolonged the inevitable, made sorting the mess out more difficult and landed themselves with £1.5 liability to zero purpose.
3. because without investment in the facilities they can't turn a profit and they're not going to invest without tenure. Plus they're not going invest and pay rent.

Agree it's an obvious answer to my point 3 that I completely missed

Regarding point 2 I meant in regards to now. If they give the lease for next to nothing the perception from some would be RFL have in effect given you a bail out.

Personally think the deadline for this Friday could be extended again. I know it's getting frustrating but at the moment ABC and RFL seem to be poles appart and haven't the RFL said they have just received an offer. Not alot of time for negotiations. Worth extending the deadline if there is a realistic chance of the two parties being able to reach an agreement

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:14 am  

Ferdy wrote:

Agree it's an obvious answer to my point 3 that I completely missed

Regarding point 2 I meant in regards to now. If they give the lease for next to nothing the perception from some would be RFL have in effect given you a bail out.

Personally think the deadline for this Friday could be extended again. I know it's getting frustrating but at the moment ABC and RFL seem to be poles appart and haven't the RFL said they have just received an offer. Not alot of time for negotiations. Worth extending the deadline if there is a realistic chance of the two parties being able to reach an agreement

Reagrding point 2 - they'd be right. The RFL bailed out the previous BoD whilst calling it something else. At the same time they didn't insist on RFL auditors overseeing where the money went and what state the club was in in November. Had they done so, they could have verified whether the fans efforts in raising 500k was a hopeless waste of money or not.

Guilfoyle may extend again but will probably make clear this is the last time. The RFL will be desperate to avoid the Bulls not fulfilling the fixtures and it will act as an added pressure.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:26 am  

ex Bull Dog wrote:

He could be both

Bravo

It's insight like this that draws me to the internet.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:35 am  

Stul wrote:

Bravo

It's insight like this that draws me to the internet.

Just being silly

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:09 pm  

ex Bull Dog wrote:

Just being silly

Sorry. I wasn't being sarcastic (although I can see how you thought that). Your comment genuinely made me laugh - I hadn't contemplated a stupid troll.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:02 pm  

There could be greater repercussios down the line for the RFL, I have a family member who works in the civil service in the DCMS ( who control sport England). There is a rumour of a draft paper regarding funding of organisations that are the governing bodies of sporting clubs that write off debts to other Government departments.. IE Bulls go bust and HMRC get nowt.

The RFL could lose a large chunk of the funding for 2014 onwards for allowing it's members to default on payments to HMRC, the last deal was worth approx £29m for 3 years........would the RFL risk that sort of money ??????

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:29 am  

pie.warrior wrote:

...There is a rumour of a draft paper ...

Well now I'm quaking in my boots. No, really.