: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:58 pm  

OSV thread at top of page

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:17 pm  

Great news for us I just hope this time around everything goes right this time, it will be nice to be in a ground without getting drenched when it rains. I presume we will be playing at Valley Parade again ?

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:25 pm  

jsb1990 wrote:

I presume we will be playing at Valley Parade again ?

Most probably

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:52 am  

Hey at least this time it reached the BBC Sport pages.

this scheme seams to have a lot more backing and doesnt involve stepping on anyone elses over inflated feet (morrisons asda co-op etc etc.)

Fingers Crossed

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:38 am  

So what exactly are the next steps?

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:40 pm  

Jimmybull wrote:

So what exactly are the next steps?

I have no knowledge of the scheme or the procedures the council has in place for employing consultants or contractors but some indication of what is usually involved & why there is no chance of it being ready for 2012;
Advertise in the Euroepean Journal for expressions of interest from architects, engineers etc interetsed in the scheme.
Send out a pre-qulaifcation questionnaire to all applying.
Read through the hundreds (& there will be) of responses, score them all in accordance with pre-published criteria, shortlist.
Send out invitations to tender to shortlisted consultants.
Read through numerous 3" thick submissions, each going to hundreds of pages, score them all etc.
Arrange interviews for all disciplines.
Interview.
Notify all unsuccessful consultants, giving them time to legally challenge the decision if any of them feel they have been dismissed unfairly.
After that appoint consultants.
Prepare schemes.
Cost.
Value engineer back to budget. Repeatedly.
Submit planning application.
Decide on procurement strategy for appointing contrcators.
Advertise project in European Journal for contractors (any in Europe can submit).
Go through the same process as for consultants.
Get tenders.
Value engineer.
Value engineer.
Redesign.
Appeal against onerous planning conditions/refusal.
Value engineer redesign.
Talk to favoured contractor.
Redesign.
Argue for a year over costs of 'provisional' items.
Start on site.
Discover asbestos & other contaminants in ground.
Stop job.
Notify HSE (14 days each time).
Remove contaminants.
Value engineer as already over budget.
Contractor goes into liquidation.
Retender.
Repeat above.
Appoint new contractor.
.............
Complete in 2020 with the popular side only half covered & portakbins for a hotel.

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:47 pm  

http://tinyurl.com/osv2009

http://tinyurl.com/osv2009

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:58 pm  

af wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/osv2009

From the air the cheaper option looks better

Seriously though It's great to see such ambition from all parties involved. If it doesn't come to fruition at least the council in particular have shown some ambition for the future. This project could be catalyst to greater regeneration across the city as all it takes is one large idea or project to start everything else rolling. This would attract investment in the city and then the next idea comes along.

It would also (whether it's as a sabre rattling exercise or not) one way or another free Bradford City from their oppressive rent repayments and they could then be able to bring in the players that attendances that they get should permit.

Two professional sports teams on the up helps to improve the general feeling around the place.

Go for it I say.

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:25 pm  

The ‘Do Nothing’ option provides a no cost short term solution, but fails to realise
the ambitions of the Council and its partners. Furthermore, there may be a
detrimental financial impact as the Council continues to operate at a less efficient
sports centre, through the potential loss of a Super League team in the District and
the economic impact of potentially lower intake for some courses at Bradford
College and Bradford University. In addition, the Odsal Sport Village seeks to raise
participation levels and the long term positive benefit that this can have on rising
costs to the NHS and local PCT is uncosted, but potentially significant.

: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:35 pm  

The second option would at least mean the stadium retained some sense of individuality.