: Wed May 20, 2009 1:55 pm  

Daz_4 wrote:

Not one of those players would come to a dire team in England. Especially Lockyer. If he comes over, expect him to be at a better team.

Hunt simply wont come to Super league. Either Japanese Rugby Union, Or he will stay in the NRL, because he is still being selected for the Kangeroo's.

People need to get realistic on any player from the NRL. Unless there on the verge of retiring, or pretty lost there talent they wouldn't come to Bradford.

You actually have no clue.

For one thing, the main criterion for any player coming over is his contract. The "I want to win things" bit is just obligatory hype and blarney.

For another, you can't speak for any of these players, much as you like to think you can. The same argument could easily have been made in relation to Menzies. But he's here, last time I looked.

For another, if we are talking about 2011, that is enough time for our rebuilding process to have made some significant strides. If anyone was interested into where we might be in 2011-12, rather than now, then you'd have to say we have some highly promising things to look forward to.

And whilst the results are overall not pretty reading, anyone looking at the squad would hardly think it's a bunch of nog-enders, would they?

Then there is the size of the club, its past and recent history, not to mention the excellent contacts/references/call them what you will in Aus in people like Brian Smith and Matthew Elliott, who are highly respected people.

then there is the word of players we already have, such as the legendary Steve Menzies and Morro.

No, I think the Bulls club can and would sell itself a whole lot better than you'd be likely to if you were given the job.

: Wed May 20, 2009 2:14 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

SNIP

I am disturbed by the fact I'm finding myself agreeing with you more often than not lately. That pretty much sums up my thoughts too.

I especially like the term "nog-enders". Not quite mutant pig dogs, but still pretty good!

I just wish we had a little more open dialogue from the club to fans

: Wed May 20, 2009 4:43 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

You actually have no clue.

For one thing, the main criterion for any player coming over is his contract. The "I want to win things" bit is just obligatory hype and blarney.

For another, you can't speak for any of these players, much as you like to think you can. The same argument could easily have been made in relation to Menzies. But he's here, last time I looked.

For another, if we are talking about 2011, that is enough time for our rebuilding process to have made some significant strides. If anyone was interested into where we might be in 2011-12, rather than now, then you'd have to say we have some highly promising things to look forward to.

And whilst the results are overall not pretty reading, anyone looking at the squad would hardly think it's a bunch of nog-enders, would they?

Then there is the size of the club, its past and recent history, not to mention the excellent contacts/references/call them what you will in Aus in people like Brian Smith and Matthew Elliott, who are highly respected people.

then there is the word of players we already have, such as the legendary Steve Menzies and Morro.

No, I think the Bulls club can and would sell itself a whole lot better than you'd be likely to if you were given the job.

1- Menzies has clearly come over to finish his career. Yes I know hes very talented, but to have a talented player for 1 or 2 years isn't as good as getting a talented player who will serve the club for longer.

2-I didn't mean to seem like i was speaking for the players, although i admit it came across that way. I was just looking at things realistically, because players like Hunt are in their prime and are still in contension for Australia selection. I can't think of many Aussies who have come over to England, whilst still having the chance to represent the Kangeroo's. That's all i was saying.

: Wed May 20, 2009 4:46 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

I am disturbed by the fact I'm finding myself agreeing with you more often than not lately.

someone has to.

: Wed May 20, 2009 7:32 pm  

FA's been talking loads of sense since Sunday. Weird really...

: Wed May 20, 2009 7:33 pm  

ritz wrote:

hunt, delaney, nero, lockyer, jefferies, menzies, halatau and rinaldi non fed trained.

But a French national, so fed trained stuff doesn't count.

Quins realised (with the 'help' of the RFL) too late.

: Wed May 20, 2009 8:10 pm  

Stul wrote:

But a French national, so fed trained stuff doesn't count.

Quins realised (with the 'help' of the RFL) too late.

That's what I was implying, but a certain poster didn't realise.

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:51 am  

Rumours are that Hull FC are on the verge of signing either Brent Kite or Matt Orford or both. If this is true, why are we not in for these players?

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:28 am  

According to manly its very doubtful either would be leaving..orford has almost agreed to stay with the club and kites got another yr on his deal.

: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:25 am  

In one of the rugby league papers this morning it states that you are close to agreeing a new deal with Andy Lynch, despite interest from Castleford. It has been long rumoured that he would be signing for us next season, but it seems he could be staying a Bull.