[Bulliac]

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:38 am  

I'm not distressed about being in Champ1, just damned annoyed that we weren't in that division THIS season, which is where we should have been under RFL rules, as I understand it. We've just wasted a year watching a club with no chance of winning anything. I've little faith in the owners and maybe even less in the coach, but I'll be back next season as I wouldn't know what else to do.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:43 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Ive loved our games against Bradford over the years and hope you are right and Bradford do become competitive again but I honestly believe you are done as any sort of force in RL. With the stadium restrictions you are right behind the 8 ball when compared to most other championship teams. Fax is actually a good example of a team living month to month and just getting by while been severely restricted by the stadium we play in(luckily for us its a pretty nice stadium). We have managed to get the hang of just about living within our means and still been able to put a competitive squad on the field, luckily our commercial side is still pretty good and that brings a lot of money in.

Its tough to get back once the freefall begins which is what happened to Fax but there is the hope that if we can do it then its not beyond the realms of possibility that Bradford could do it too. Actually getting out of the yearly mediocrity and stability brings a whole set of new problems when you actually get there.

Without a multi-millionaire owner willing to drop cash into a black hole (such as Leigh or London) I can't see how any team can compete to gain promotion to SL, (where of course you get given over a million and a half pounds just for being there).

Its good to hear you say Fax are bringing the money in, but wasn't there rumours of huge cuts throughout the club just a couple of weeks ago if they had not made the top 4? I mean, that sounds like the sort of thing Bradford would do; spend beyond their means to achieve something, and then miss it completely and have to 'cut their cloth accordingly'

[Bullseye]

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:54 am  

Indeed. Had Fax finished 5th it'd be a different story. I bet Batley will be cutting their cloth since they finished outside the top 4 now.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:55 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

With the stadium restrictions you are right behind the 8 ball when compared to most other championship teams.

3) Good news about stadium development - should take care of that concern.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:57 am  

A finances question - I assume we are renting out part of the car park to that construction company - Irvines is it? Their equipment is all over the place.

And also we seem to be renting out the stadium to a film production company at the moment.

And next year we will actually have some sponsorship cash I think.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:03 am  

Highlander wrote:

A finances question - I assume we are renting out part of the car park to that construction company - Irvines is it? Their equipment is all over the place.

And also we seem to be renting out the stadium to a film production company at the moment.

And next year we will actually have some sponsorship cash I think.

Yeah, we were told that ALL sponsorship has been sold for next season already. And that is cash that ChaLo will actually be getting, as well as the cash from season tickets that they sell too. Which is more than this year.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:11 am  

Bullseye wrote:

It's a crunch period for supporters too. If the owners handle this right they could go into 2018 quite optimistically. Handled badly and we'll see crowds/season ticket holders drop below 1k.

I want to come back and get behind the first team. I don't want to feel like I'm taken for granted and have got used to doing other things on a Sunday. I suspect I'm not alone. I've had enough of deals behind closed doors. I understand things not being announced until they're signed and sealed but then don't go around telling every Tom, Dick and Harry about it informally then. That only pi55es people off and potentially raises false hopes.

I hope that if there is a re-structure we're not dropped in it at the last minute and end up as cannon fodder again. I'd much rather us know where we are even if it's C1. At least then we can build a side to get out of there.

Couldn't have put it better

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:31 am  

Fr13daY wrote:

Without a multi-millionaire owner willing to drop cash into a black hole (such as Leigh or London) I can't see how any team can compete to gain promotion to SL, (where of course you get given over a million and a half pounds just for being there).

Its good to hear you say Fax are bringing the money in, but wasn't there rumours of huge cuts throughout the club just a couple of weeks ago if they had not made the top 4? I mean, that sounds like the sort of thing Bradford would do; spend beyond their means to achieve something, and then miss it completely and have to 'cut their cloth accordingly'

The Bradford thing to do would be not to make the cuts. Living within your means makes cut an inevitability when the money drops which is the right thing to do.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:33 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Indeed. Had Fax finished 5th it'd be a different story. I bet Batley will be cutting their cloth since they finished outside the top 4 now.

Which is my whole point. For years Bradford spent money they could not afford to spend and refused to make cut backs. At both Batley and Fax they are not afraid of making those cuts if the club must be protected.

Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:19 pm  

For me there are a few of major points /questions:
1) Stadium development - do we end up moving homes for a couple of years again (Horsfall?)
2) How do we improve the standard of our team performances - of late we've being playing at a level below current C1 standards (basics as others have mentioned around run forwards, pass, catch and tackle seem to be a problem) and I don't see any advance this season for all we have a past NRL coach
3) We believe several of current squad will be off - good look to them though I doubt they will walk into SL teams - those that are left beyond squad of youngsters I'm not sure we want to retain - is it a full scale clear out again?
4) I like many others want to support a team that is progressing but can't see many season tickets sold in 2018 without major surgery.