: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:16 pm  

clared wrote:

Yes i`ll take that back menzies, morrison and burgess did have a good game but they can`t play alone. i was commented on platty because his defence has improved, especially that tackle on hock tonight.

One thing that did annoy me tonight was our constantly running up the middle playing one man rugby, why not use our wingers more because that where the tries were scored tonight.

I don't think anybody had a good game really, but you could tell that they were putting alot more effort in than anybody else. Yeah, Platt's defence has seemed to improve alot and he looks a bit more confident under the high ball now. Still running sideways though.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:32 pm  

Even with the mediocrity in the back line the players we have in the team should be turning in better performances than that.

My prediction? He'll be gone by Easter.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:35 pm  

bullsonfire wrote:

Even with the mediocrity in the back line the players we have in the team should be turning in better performances than that.

My prediction? He'll be gone by Easter.

I hope he's gone by monday.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:36 pm  

Well by looking at the future games its not looking good up to Easter
Hull, Cats, Cas and Rhino`s only game looking likely is a win at Cas and that looks unlikely after our performance tonight.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:38 pm  

clared wrote:

Well by looking at the future games its not looking good up to Easter
Hull, Cats, Cas and Rhino`s only game looking likely is a win at Cas and that looks unlikely after our performance tonight.

Cas are scoring for fun. They will rip us apart.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:39 pm  

Adeybull, in his first post back from exile wrote:

Before the backsliding began, one or two of the Negative Tendency undertook to restrain themselves till after ten matches. Maybe that remains not a bad idea generally? By then, it should be much more clear whether Macca's optimism is justified - not that I'd expect the NT to have much appetite for humble pie even if it was - or whether it is just so many words.

If it should prove the latter - and I bloody well hope it does not, but the worry is there - then the club will have its work cut out to explain why the problems are not all down to the coach and to stop the NT bandwagon. We'd sure need some plain talking then?

After that embarrassment tonight, I fear that the situation I hoped would never arise has come to pass, and now cannot wait for ten games.

I have been hammering on about folk who seemingly revel in negativity for the sake of it, and up till tonight it was looking like the Dark Side was losing a little of its grip on some of our more sceptical contributors.

But there was a great deal to be very negative about tonight, and precious little in the way of positives, I suggest? Morro, Menzies, Platt and maybe Burgess coming closest. But overall that was very very depressing.

The Dark Side is very strong right now, and the Negative Tendency is becoming the Negative Tsunami. If we get one more identikit media release in the T&A now, even I am going to be at the end of my tether.

We look the laughing stock of the game right now, the more so if Wire should win tomorrow.

Its clear Newton was carrying that injury from last week - probably unfair to slate him if thats the case. Maybe others are? Hope that Wagga's injury is not as bad as feared - best wishes to him.

OK, say so we sack the coach; we have to pay him his package up to the end of the year anyway. Where does that leave the money to pay his - likely much more expensive - replacement?

I suggest we need some plain talking from the club - now. Tell us how it is.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:40 pm  

bullsonfire wrote:

. . . . . My prediction? He'll be gone by Easter.

Will he do the coming back bit three days later????

Badumsh!

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:47 pm  

Everyone around me tonight said they hope macca resigns, some fans dont help by saying players are crap.
One bloke shouted out to platt, oi platt go back to salford ur crap, platt turned back round and his head dropped. But he did have a good game, better than a fair few others, once again sherriffe did diddly squat, even halley has something about him in pace, sherriffe doesnt even have that.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:47 pm  

Morrison, Burgess, Menzies, Platt all worked hard, and the squad isn't bust, but the coaching is. Poor marker defence, big hits rather than ball and all tackling, a play pattern that is now so predictable you can call them in advance, coupled with a cross field link between two halves that is so slow the opposition needn't move up - apart from they do and frequently threaten Deacon on the last play, resulting in awful kicking.

Rotation is bizarre coupled with occasionally suicidal - Wigan in 2006 play-offs - but there's evidence of it in every match - Tell me why Matt James, one of a few fit players was on the pitch for little more than 15-20mins, whilst Menzies is being left out for the full 80 or near as damn it. That tells its own story - because two aussie post-30 yr old second rowers are our most creative players. That in turn illustrates a rather odd pattern of recruitment, because let's face it McNamara's strategy is recruit second rowers who might be able to play as stand in half backs, front rowers or centres - the squad's full of them.

I haven't joined the debate between the naughty boys and girls and the patronising school teacher types for fear of ending up in a 'camp'. But anyone who thinks this is a blip, down to injuries, or some other lame excuse is missing the point. this is a direct outcome of a poor system that has become ingrained and needs uprooting. MacNamara has to go, they'll be plenty of applicants for his job, it's not as if RL has a surplus of SL coaching opportunities. Oh and I was at the match and in the half of our crowd who applauded the players for their efforts, irrespective of the performance, rather than booing, shouting for their money back or giving the players the finger (all of which was predictable but WRONG). If this goes on too much longer we'll start to eat in to the 10,000 home crowd that is our base, and that will make the situation much worse.

: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:51 pm  

anarkik wrote:

Morrison, Burgess, Menzies, Platt all worked hard, and the squad isn't bust, but the coaching is. Poor marker defence, big hits rather than ball and all tackling, a play pattern that is now so predictable you can call them in advance, coupled with a cross field link between two halves that is so slow the opposition needn't move up - apart from they do and frequently threaten Deacon on the last play, resulting in awful kicking.

Rotation is bizarre coupled with occasionally suicidal - Wigan in 2006 play-offs - but there's evidence of it in every match - Tell me why Matt James, one of a few fit players was on the pitch for little more than 15-20mins, whilst Menzies is being left out for the full 80 or near as damn it. That tells its own story - because two aussie post-30 yr old second rowers are our most creative players. That in turn illustrates a rather odd pattern of recruitment, because let's face it McNamara's strategy is recruit second rowers who might be able to play as stand in half backs, front rowers or centres - the squad's full of them.

I haven't joined the debate between the naughty boys and girls and the patronising school teacher types for fear of ending up in a 'camp'. But anyone who thinks this is a blip, down to injuries, or some other lame excuse is missing the point. this is a direct outcome of a poor system that has become ingrained and needs uprooting. MacNamara has to go, they'll be plenty of applicants for his job, it's not as if RL has a surplus of SL coaching opportunities. Oh and I was at the match and in the half of our crowd who applauded the players for their efforts, irrespective of the performance, rather than booing, shouting for their money back or giving the players the finger (all of which was predictable but WRONG). If this goes on too much longer we'll start to eat in to the 10,000 home crowd that is our base, and that will make the situation much worse.

I think that says it all.