[Bullseye]

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:01 am  

debaser wrote:

So Valley Parade here we come.

Only if we can get out of paying the Council several million quid first.

Otherwise we're in the worst of all worlds.

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:02 am  

Bullseye wrote:

This is the big sticking point and the thing I hope the club are intending to discuss with the council.

Are the council really going to try and hold them to this agreement? the same council who let a company knock down the centre of town and then not rebuild it? They are not so keen to hold them to that agreement.
Clowns.

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:06 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Only if we can get out of paying the Council several million quid first.

Otherwise we're in the worst of all worlds.

As mentioned in the other thread -
are Bradford council really going to risk bankrupting one of its major assets? Mind you, they are doing their best to get rid of most of Bradford, so proably yes.

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:26 am  

Don't forget the councillor scumbags are proposing a residents'-only parking zone for about 100 square miles around Odsal, to further wreck the remaining prospects for the club.

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:37 am  

there are fewer recognised car parks, and nothing on the scale of Richard Dunnes, but the stadium and surrounding area coped well with two premiership years with average crowds over 22,000 over 19 home games per season. I go to every city home game and park a five minute walk from the ground. I have never been avictim of crime (touch wood, i can guarantee i will now tonight!) It takes a little longer to get away after, but from a 3pm kick off, and the game ending at 4.55, I am sat at home in Wibsey by 5.30. For both clubs to become more successful, CIty and Bull have to share a ground. the need is on both sides. it is just that the current facility at VAlley Parade is better for fans and financially. if we are permanent fixtures there then the stadium licence can be altered to allow a more flexible approach to the rules, rather than the heavy handed tactics of 10 years ago!

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:40 am  

Adeybull wrote:

Don't forget the council scumbags are proposing a residents'-only parking zone for about 100 square miles around Odsal, to further wreck the remaining prospects for the club.

Councillor David Warburton is one of them!!!! what side is he on? wants a state of the art stadium and sports complex, but not anyone parking near his house. Typical of the tools running BMDC!!!
I think i have found the reason!!!!

all the councillors are only interested in their small patch of the city, and none of them have the bigger view in mind. time to get rid of the council and have an elected mayor who will take responsibility and hire and fire his officials!

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:44 am  

what are we doing wrong?? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 582287.stm

what are we doing wrong?? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 582287.stm

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:31 am  

Depressing, but it was always just a matter of timing in my view, the cash has never been there to see this plan through IMHO.

I have now pretty much given up any hope of us/someone developing Odsal in any meaningful way for top class sport. So logically we have to leave. I dont want to but I can't see a future for the club at Odsal (I'm talking the next 30 years not just the next 3) so we either leave Bradford (No idea how or where this would work) or move to VP.

In reality I think the only option is making a move to VP work, I didn't like VP last time, Im not a fan of moving there now but I see no other option.

If we occupied VP on equal terms with City, with equal "branding" and say over the running/developing we could make it work. We would need to do some building work to increase the pitch size, as has been said, just remove some of the front rows of seats in a couple of the stands and re-lay a bigger pitch (easy to say I know but surely shouldn't be beyond feasible?)

We will lose fans from south Bradford, of that there is no doubt, (we lost fans last time and that was when we had one of the best Bradford sides in a generation, god knows what would happen now) but we would need a new massive marketing push across Bradford to bring in new fans to replace the ones that just will not go to Vp and maybe we could lay on free shuttle buses from Odsal in the first few seasons to encourage people across the city? But we would just have to cope with and budget for lower crowds initially.

As for the agreement with the council either we negotiate a suitable repayment schedule, or we find some crack shot lawyers to get us out of the agreement (remember we're talking about Bradford council so just round up some 7 year olds to have a look at it and we should be out of any agreement in no time).

Sad, but I see no other option in the long term, and if thats the case we might as well start to put the plans in place to ensure our licence is not threatened in the franchising round after the next one.

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:38 am  

Cant say i want to go to VP, but i am struggling to see other options exept move the club to a city that wants us????

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:52 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Only if we can get out of paying the Council several million quid first.

Otherwise we're in the worst of all worlds.

I'm convinced that the Council would rip up the lease in a stroke with no penalty clauses whatsoever and no clawback of the monies paid previously if it meant the Bulls could stand alone as a viable Bradford sporting venture. I presume they might have a problem would a proposal be to re-locate out of the district.

They may not be able to deliver and pay for a £75m stadium scheme ( if they had the money alone I'm sure they would have done so ) but there would be no Council interest in obstructively blocking the Bulls "moving on". I doubt many people would object to this if it was seen as the best way forward for both parties.