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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:14 am  
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2 wigan lads on dual reg .. one has what 16/17 trys .... this comp is entertaining but makes a mockery of the standings. fev is another, sorry leeds A team


Matty Ashton is second in the Championship try scoring charts with 18 and was signed from Mayfield
Hes not on dual reg
Mike Butt didn't play today is 3rd and was signed from Broughton park Ru. Not on dual reg.
Just some facts to counter one of your excuses
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:08 am  
Sounded like the ref had no business being on the pitch from the radio commentary
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:04 am  
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Sounded like the ref had no business being on the pitch from the radio commentary


O i do love it when someone who wasnt even at the game still manages to criticise the referee when we dont win.
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:38 am  
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O i do love it when someone..


Careful, that's close to becoming a catchphrase.
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:30 am  
It's a reasonable point about the ref. He seemed to want to be the star but was hideously inconsistent. First try the touchy signalled in touch and he ignored him then within 10 mins decided that may have been a bad idea and listens but only after having made the decision he then reverses. It's no wonder it ended in an all in. He had no control or consistency at all.

Which is all nice but he never missed a tackle, dropped a ball or generally slacked off and let Swinton run through the middle like we did.

How many times were we held up over the line? Something we've become great at, but not yesterday. Just Michael Worrincy attempts at half a-rsed tackles.

We picked Swinton's pocket. Had Keyes's kick gone over it would have been a broad daylight mugging.
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:27 am  
Having listened to Kear's post match interview he's obviously seething and rightly so. We came out with a real half arsed attitude and deserved to be 16-0 down. I find this attitude hard to fathom. As Kear said do the players want to achieve anything or are they just happy being mid table championship level players? To work so hard in the past two games then not turn up until half an hour has gone isn't good enough.

Even once we got back in the lead we let them run through our middle to score. That was weak defence. I dont know who it was but they should be in the reserves following that effort.

I was a bit mystified to see Wood left out too. We lacked his toughness up the middle at times. A few other things in defence concerned me such as the weak defending opposite Kibula and the way we allowed Ryan to be targeted when he was clearly injured. In attack we were poor too with players not backing up enough. Then there was Oakes's inexplicable dummy at the end and Wildie taking several eons to pass the ball out wide when Swinton were down to 11 men.

All very poor and totally avoidable. Well done to Swinton though who played it tough yet showed a lot of flair too. Had they kept their discipline a little better they would've kept Farrell out at the end but being down to 11 was too much to overcome.

As for the ref he's a young and inexperienced lad who had a tough game to cover. He made some mistakes but they all do and he will learn. Having a go at him detracts from our own shortfalls.
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:46 am  
Mr Kear also said he would look at the players in yesterdays game, and the players in contention from the reserves game and make changes for the upcoming game against York (which, I hope, will be some payback for our defeat last year).

Or will he? Hasn't he said this before, and then changed nothing? Is it just an empty threat for the players?
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:58 am  
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Or will he? Hasn't he said this before, and then changed nothing? Is it just an empty threat for the players?


I just referred to this on another forum. He has made this threat at least twice in recent weeks and then done absolutely nothing - picking the same 17 the following week.

I'm afraid he will actually need to follow through if he doesn't want the players to get wise to those empty threats!
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:08 pm  
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Mr Kear also said he would look at the players in yesterdays game, and the players in contention from the reserves game and make changes for the upcoming game against York (which, I hope, will be some payback for our defeat last year).

Or will he? Hasn't he said this before, and then changed nothing? Is it just an empty threat for the players?


But surely JK will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Suppose he makes a load of changes and we lose to York. Imagine the outcry on here. people saying "this was a must win game, lose this and our seasons over and Kear changes the team massively".

Moving on, I could see Evans coming in if he has no reaction to 80 mins in the reserves, that would shore up the middle a bit. Crossley to come back if fit, and surely Wood for his defence,
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Re: Swinton (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:27 pm  
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O i do love it when someone who wasnt even at the game still manages to criticise the referee when we dont win.


Very odd comment.

It's almost as if you think attendance of the game in question is a pre-requisite criteria for the right to have a point of view.

I was actually hoping people would clarify for people like me who weren't in attendance whether or not the referee was garbage or not, but whatever.
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