Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:52 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

I personally think that's an absolutely excellent idea which should be pushed through at the earliest possible opportunity.

Im sure that setiment has nothing to do with your impending house purchase..

but ill jump on that band wagon aswell halifax blue bulls, halifax bull soxs, cmon lets start naming our new club

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:10 pm  

TBF this problem is not the council's fault. The funding shortfall has come from the college not the council.

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:15 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

When the initial proposal was dropped for the £75m proposal I did think it was a pipedream and totally unachievable. The Council spearheaded that move and so now look like complete idiots. The initial scheme was less ambitious and could have been completed by now. As it is we're left as the main loser in this whole sorry tale.

You could argue that if the council were trying to engineer a situation to get the club out of Odsal they couldn't be doing a better job moreover I would even say that if the Council were trying to get the club out of existence they were on track to achieve that too.

Spot on.

We could have had a perfectly serviceable ground, at a fraction of any of the costs since advanced, but instead lunatic council pipedreams have always prevailed.

Asim echoed my comments about the cost of consultancies, I had exaggerated for effect, BUT I have no doubt at all that the total thus pished up the wall on consultants WOULD have been ample to make Odsal good enough for a decade or two more, without being flash, running -as it does - into very many millions of pounds of ratepayers' money. For nothing, save a sequence of dodgy cartoon illustrations: "Here's another version of a stadium you'll never have. My fee note is in the post".

You know what grieves me as much as anything? It's that any local authority which has had the awesome, renowned and inspiring Odsal Bowl as the raw material to build on, has failed to capitalise on such a world-famous and magnificent venue; instead, a place that once held 120,000 RL fans will very likely end up as a repository for a billion soiled nappies. Because as a sporting venue, folowing the latest debacle announcement, it is now irreversibly in its death throes.

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:22 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Spot on.

We could have had a perfectly serviceable ground, at a fraction of any of the costs since advanced, but instead lunatic council pipedreams have always prevailed.

Asim echoed my comments about the cost of consultancies, I had exaggerated for effect, BUT I have no doubt at all that the total thus pished up the wall on consultants WOULD have been ample to make Odsal good enough for a decade or two more, without being flash, running -as it does - into very many millions of pounds of ratepayers' money. For nothing, save a sequence of dodgy cartoon illustrations: "Here's another version of a stadium you'll never have. My fee note is in the post".

You know what grieves me as much as anything? It's that any local authority which has had the awesome, renowned and inspiring Odsal Bowl as the raw material to build on, has failed to capitalise on such a world-famous and magnificent venue; instead, a place that once held 120,000 RL fans will very likely end up as a repository for a billion soiled nappies. Because as a sporting venue, folowing the latest debacle announcement, it is now irreversibly in its death throes.

Ah well, at least McNamaras' signing policy will have improved.

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:33 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Ah well, at least McNamaras' signing policy will have improved.

Forgive me if I don't laugh, it's just that the death knell of my club may as well just have sounded

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:48 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Forgive me if I don't laugh, it's just that the death knell of my club may as well just have sounded

Wrong time, wrong place but merely meant to lighten the mood a little.

However, you have got me worried FA. When you are beginning to feel the bad vibes then I guess the bigger picture is more than I could ever comprehend up here I have to say.

However, hopefully something can be done about this in the long term but a short term fix of VP will keep the name going in the short term.

I have felt for some time that one custom built arena for both sides would be a good solution but it ain't gonna happen is it?

(I realise the attachment that the Bantams have to VP from that terrible day in May 1985 but would a permanent tribute on the site of the ground not suffice if a new arena did indeed get pushed through?)

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:19 pm  

You've got to give them credit, they are consistant. They have failed to bring anything to fruition in the last 20 years. As has already been said, I'd love to know how much has been spent by the Council on Feasibility studies for numerous failed projects over the years. Probably enough to build 2 Stadiums and countless sports and community centres. The only way to get anything developed is to get major sponsorship from a Supermarket as part of any development. But for some reason this seems unacceptable, I mean who would want to create new jobs and business opportunities?

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:42 pm  

Roofaldo wrote:

TBF this problem is not the council's fault. The funding shortfall has come from the college not the council.

Who do the College think they are - Leeds Met? Stevie Wonder could have seen this one coming.

Re: Odsal Sporting Village : Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:43 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Who do the College think they are - Leeds Met

It's funny cos it's true.

[Bullseye]

Re: VP it is then! : Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:54 pm  

Spannerz wrote:

The only way to get anything developed is to get major sponsorship from a Supermarket as part of any development. But for some reason this seems unacceptable, I mean who would want to create new jobs and business opportunities?

Well not any of that supermarket's competitors or we'd have had a new ground built back in 2001/03. As it was the plan was called in by Stephen "Dodgy" Byers and scuppered.