Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:58 pm  

bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p.

bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:28 pm  

I Am The Stig wrote: bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p. That bits interesting as it was confirmed in saturdays T&A that Khan/Sutcliffe had submitted a bid to the administrator. http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9843153.Extra_time_plea_in_fight_to_save_Bradford_Bulls/ Does that mean administrator is treating ABC as preferred bidders and waiting to see whether their bids accepted before forwarding K/S bid or that hes just dismissing it out of hand?.

I Am The Stig wrote: bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p. That bits interesting as it was confirmed in saturdays T&A that Khan/Sutcliffe had submitted a bid to the administrator. http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9843153.Extra_time_plea_in_fight_to_save_Bradford_Bulls/ Does that mean administrator is treating ABC as preferred bidders and waiting to see whether their bids accepted before forwarding K/S bid or that hes just dismissing it out of hand?.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:32 pm  

I Am The Stig wrote: bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p. WTF do they want? I think that if they turn down another offer, we should say b*ll*cks to them and fold. They clearly have an agenda. Let's not play their game anymore. Let's put an end to it now and try and build something for next season before it's too late.

I Am The Stig wrote: bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p. WTF do they want? I think that if they turn down another offer, we should say b*ll*cks to them and fold. They clearly have an agenda. Let's not play their game anymore. Let's put an end to it now and try and build something for next season before it's too late.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:33 pm  

Longest death throes in history. We've suffered enough.

[Bullseye]

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:50 pm  

The RFL clearly want to see us struggle on to the end of the season and take stock then.

Trouble is that by then we may lose those interested in investing.

The bidders aren't going to bid without some conditions as they need to know whether we'll be in SL or not and whether it's worth investing in the ground (whether that's to improve or change the Coral Stand). Nobody is going to bid without knowing what they're getting into.

Of course the administrator could decide to put the whole shooting match into liquidation. That would seriously put out the RFL, players, staff, fans and creditors. However it would clear the path for a new club if there was sufficient interest to start one, that's a big IF too as investors have been hard enough to find for a SL club let alone one further down the leagues. I'd be amazed if any newco got straight into SL.

I get the feeling the administrator is trying to buy time but I'm not sure why given that the RFL won't negotiate with bidders. Unless there's some doublespeak going on here and negotiations are taking place.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:54 pm  

I Am The Stig wrote: bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p. The RFL expect miracles here - who will pay £2-3m for something when a group of outsiders control your revenue. If this was a business with external customers buying things and the profit on sales would fund the business, at least you can make decisions on how you get your customers to buy more! On this, we could have the best plan to grow our fan base, revenues etc. over the next couple of years but one stakeholder group can say "that's it - times up" in less than 2 months and you have thrown the £2-3m away! If the RFL are really serious about an unconditional bid - we've gone!

I Am The Stig wrote: bradford discussions RFL director of licensing and standards Blake Solly says the governing body are still considering Guilfoyle's request for them to pay the players' wages for August, and have promised an answer by Tuesday afternoon. Solly added the RFL's board of directors were also set to discuss the latest, modified offer put to Guilfoyle from a local group of businessmen, known as the ABC consortium, on Monday afternoon. However, they are likely to reject it. "We're waiting for the board's decision but I don't think it will be accepted," he said. "We've told them a number of times any offer cannot be conditional but we're still getting conditional offers. I don't think they're going to get a lot of change out of the board." Solly says the RFL have still not seen a written offer from a second Bradford consortium fronted by local MP Gerry Sutcliffe, a former Sports Minister. cr@p. The RFL expect miracles here - who will pay £2-3m for something when a group of outsiders control your revenue. If this was a business with external customers buying things and the profit on sales would fund the business, at least you can make decisions on how you get your customers to buy more! On this, we could have the best plan to grow our fan base, revenues etc. over the next couple of years but one stakeholder group can say "that's it - times up" in less than 2 months and you have thrown the £2-3m away! If the RFL are really serious about an unconditional bid - we've gone!

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:55 pm  

I think the ABC consortium died a death as soon as their first offer was rejected and Akbhar's withdrew their interest. We still don't know the full details of their offer, for all we know they could have been taking the p*ss, offering a pittance for the lease and giving no guarantees about the developments at Odsal.

Perhaps the Sutcliffe consortium might be a little more transparent with regards to their bid. A meeting with the fans is already more than we got from ABC.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:57 pm  

Why are you all blaming the RFL.

[Bullseye]

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:01 pm  

Is it official Akhbar's have withdrawn? Just heard rumours so far.

If there is no realistic bid then surely liquidation is the only option, is there any point in going on? Or is it being done to finish the season thus keeping the RFL sweet in order for a newco to start next season at Odsal with a better deal. (in what league I have no idea).

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:02 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

The RFL clearly want to see us struggle on to the end of the season and take stock then.

Trouble is that by then we may lose those interested in investing.

The bidders aren't going to bid without some conditions as they need to know whether we'll be in SL or not and whether it's worth investing in the ground (whether that's to improve or change the Coral Stand). Nobody is going to bid without knowing what they're getting into.

Of course the administrator could decide to put the whole shooting match into liquidation. That would seriously put out the RFL, players, staff, fans and creditors. However it would clear the path for a new club if there was sufficient interest to start one, that's a big IF too as investors have been hard enough to find for a SL club let alone one further down the leagues. I'd be amazed if any newco got straight into SL.

I get the feeling the administrator is trying to buy time but I'm not sure why given that the RFL won't negotiate with bidders. Unless there's some doublespeak going on here and negotiations are taking place.

I agree, but one thing putting off investors / Donors is the fact that you havn't got a clue where the money is going.
Say i donated £5k, who would get it ? I think this administrator would swallow that up in a breath.
A new club being run by people who have the best interests of the club and supporters at heart would be far far more attractive a proposition for any investor / donor to back.
And yes i would donate to that.