Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:43 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

Gift or forward cash already due. Yes they are helping us get to the end of the season - no evidence of anything else at the moment, but we'll all recognise it if it happens

I'm sorry but why do you feel the RFL should help you out beyond the end of the season? The RFL have stated several times that they have to protect the interests of the game and the other member clubs, not only Bradfords. I use to have some sympathy for the Bulls but fans like you, make fans like me feel Bradford deserve everything they've got. The cynicism that you've shown in your posts towards the RFL is just amazing.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:51 pm  

MP wrote:

I'm sorry but why do you feel the RFL should help you out beyond the end of the season? The RFL have stated several times that they have to protect the interests of the game and the other member clubs, not only Bradfords. I use to have some sympathy for the Bulls but fans like you, make fans like me feel Bradford deserve everything they've got. The cynicism that you've shown in your posts towards the RFL is just amazing.

Not sure I fully believe you had too much sympathy for the Bulls. Only 'help' I want is for the RFL to be realistic and try and facilitate a sale or be honest now and say Bulls will start in CC2 next season

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:53 pm  

Its Championship 1 not 2....so not all bad

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:55 pm  

Whatever it is that's where we're going!

Re: Fans Meeting at City Hall - Mon 7pm : Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:25 pm  

Seems a strange situation when the RFL will not consider any bids containing conditions. Surely their offer to buy the lease on Odsal from the BOD contained conditions eg loan repayment as part of the deal!! A case of double standards here I think. No potential buyer would wish to purchase the club without some indication of future SL status. How on earth can you put forward a business plan when you have no indication of anticipated revenue which depends on your league status. It would appaer to me that the RFL Board are adopting this stance to appease those other SL club chairman who are extremely unhappy that the RFL entered into this ground purchase scheme somewhat behind closed doors without their prior knowledge.What does the RFL stand to gain from the loss of the bradford bulls to the competition. In my opinion absolutely nothing. They will be left with the lease on a ground which no doubt will have to be maintained. Very poor publicity when one of the most successful clubs in the summer era disappears into oblivion and an obvious call for an investigation into the whole franchise licensing system. Alraedy initiated by the new acting chief executive.

Re: Fans Meeting at City Hall - Mon 7pm : Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:31 pm  

I am really wondering whether it would be best going bust now. We are embarrassing our great club, and must be creating animosity amongst those playing for us.

How long can we expect the staff to work for nothing? and more importantly, how the hell do we build a squad for next year? the players cannot wait until the end of august to find out their fate, it is unfair on those that have pulled on our shirt.

I kind of hope/ expect that if we are to survive we will see the club sell a couple of players, as I am sure they will not want to sit around and wait to see how it pans out.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:40 pm  

MP wrote:

The RFL appear to be paying the August wages for your players from what has come out at the meeting tonight. If that's not the RFL helping the players out I don't know what is.

Edited for accuracy.

The RFL have said the players will be paid.

There are 2 choices. The RFL pay the players to play for Bradford to the end of the season, fulfilling the fixtures. Everything then collapses, the players get salary cap dispensations with other clubs for next season and the players continue to get paid.

Or - everything collapses now. Fixtures are declared void (distorting the competition) , the RFL pay the players to the end of the season but they won't be allowed to join other clubs now (to avoid distorting the competition further) so they all go on holiday early.

The RFL are trying to protect the players - fine.
They are trying to protect the integrity of the competition - fine
They have not protected the staff - not so good but the fans (and Warrington's generosity) are helping with that.

But we are not getting any indication that the RFL is currently trying to protect the club or the fans.
They might be, but they're not explaining themselves very well. But then when has anyone explained anything over the last 4 months.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:58 am  

The RFL have NOT helped the club, they have helped Peter Hood stay in position years after anyone could see the man was wholly incompetent and dishonest.

By SECRETLY lending him 700k they made the situation worse not better. Had their own audit dept looked at the situation they could have made public what was going on whilst our Chairman was telling everyone that the pledeges had been a great success and the club's finances were in good shape. Had they acted then the club had a number of options,

1, A smaller loan with input from the RFL to reduce outgoings.
2, RFL oversight of signings
3, Change the board
4, Enter admin but still holding the lease.
5, Launch the pledge

The RFL were registering new players at the club while owed 700k?

Despite the club not making one single repayment, they then (apparently without the knowledge of the other shareholders or a single other member club) negotiated to buy the lease. Again they made no attempt to look into the reason why the club could not make any repayments or why they needed to sell the lease. Did Balke Solly, the head of licensing, who is in charge of the process of financial oversight not think that this suggested a problem? They then joined with Peter Hood in explaining that decison with a story which looked shaky at the time but which now can be said to be downright lies.

In the interim period the club have lost the entire sum of money handed over by the RFL plus 500k of supporters money. Clearly the administration of the club is the key problem - a matter I and others have raised time and again, but the conduct of the RFL needs to be looked into. WHY did they enter into not one but two secret arrangements, particularly as the club had breached the terms of the first one? Where were the RFL auditors? What did Peter Hood tell them for them to act in this manner? What did Nigel Wood tell the RFL board to get them to agree to this?

Nobody screamed for administration. I and others pointed out time and time and time again that the people running the club were not up to the job and should stand down. Where we are now is an inevitable consequence of these warnings not being heeded. This is a wholly preventable disaster.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:15 am  

If the RFL don't have someone playing in that stadium and paying rent then it's going to be one massive problem for them. They only option would be for the council to sell the land and repay them through the sale. Could that/ would that happen?

There's no way with the monkey of Odsal on their back they'd let a new Bulls in SL playing at Valley Parade.

I'd be happy watching a completely new club play Championship 2 at Horsfall if it restored some pride and honesty to RL in Bradford.

This is a mess you couldn't make up.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:32 am  

Still a stand off http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... _/?ref=rss

Still a stand off http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... _/?ref=rss