Andy Wilson article : Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:25 pm  

McNamara looks to take bull by the horns in Perpignan encore

McNamara looks to take bull by the horns in Perpignan encore

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:31 pm  

So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?

Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?

But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:33 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?

Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?

But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?

Ah, so THAT's why we don't get our planning permissions for new stadiums. It's cos people boo. It's all so clear now

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:42 pm  

Roofaldo wrote:

Ah, so THAT's why we don't get our planning permissions for new stadiums. It's cos people boo. It's all so clear now

Sarcasm eh? The last refuge of a shaky argument. Who said anything about planning permission? The OSV was always about a combination of finances and political backing and will.

To re-iterate - what sort of an impression do you think it gave on Sunday to one of the most important individuals we need behind us? He's not been known as the biggest Bulls supporter in the past. Would YOU have felt more or less inclined to throw your substantial political clout behind the club's role in the project after seeing and hearing the crowd on Sunday?

And its not just the boo-boys; many, even most of us (me included) are as guilty for not providing more vocal support and showing we really really want this club and team here.

And thats before the torrent of negativity that anyone can read across the media and anywhere the club is being discussed.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:22 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?

Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?

But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?

The boo boys have every right to vent their feelings after another inept and lethergic performance.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:29 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?

Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?

But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?

Perhaps he will realise that the fickle fans that booed Macca are also thge fickle voters that put him where he is. If he wants to stay there then he should get his finger out.

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: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:31 pm  

As the article points out again, we just don't have the financial clout of our competition. And yet I don't think that impression filters out more widely. When I tell people why we aren't the force we used to be they react with incredulity.

I suppose this is a testament to how fantastically well we've done in the past without a sugar-daddy and with a millstone of a ground. I can't feel suicidal about NOW because at the back of my mind is always the fact that we've probably been punching above our weight in the past.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:32 pm  

kingmonkey wrote:

The boo boys have every right to vent their feelings after another inept and lethergic performance.

It would be more accurate to say that many of the the boo boys are a totally unreasonable idiots, who won't take anything less than a win, and who failed to see, or didn't want to see, what a vastly improved performance the team put up.

They seem to ignore all the good play and good tries. They seem to ignore all the hard tackles, and big hit ups. Yet they seem to suddenly find their voice when mistakes occur. They seem to find their "boo" whenever an Unfavoured One such as Platt or McNamara is in sight. My conclusion is that they are waiting, hoping and praying for bad play, errors and mistakes and deliberately shut out all the decent rugby from their brains. It never happened.

Personally I find it embarrassing that a grown man would seriously claim a "right to boo". I find the sight of an adult baying like a wildebeest very unedifying. In fact, I find it pathetic.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:44 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?

Presumably because the consequences were unexpected

Perhaps keeping McNamara on longer than many think necessary might be the real cause of the unitended consequences? I presume those booing were also paying fans rather than non-paying visting dignatories?

There were points in the game on Sunday which were unintentionally funny - Andy Lynch kicking on the fifth, Platt turning to pass to nobody - and frustratingly familiar from last season and this. Blame the players if you like (there's plenty to chose from), but I'm afraid the lack of organisation, poor tackling technique, lack of last play options etc scream poor coaching.

I think boo-ing makes things worse (see Wire) and is unhelpful, but then you have to ask how we've got to the point where people feel this is their only option.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:47 pm  

The thing to be remembered is that people boo because they care. Once they stop caring they will stop coming.