Player development : Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:26 pm  

It strikes me that part of the problem at the club is that we are bringing good kids through but are not developing later in their careers like Langley and Cook.

Views?

Re: Player development : Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:28 pm  

Ancient Provocateur wrote:

It strikes me that part of the problem at the club is that we are bringing good kids through but are not developing later in their careers like Langley and Cook.

Views?

Langleys lack of development is partly due to injuries and partly -imo- from bulking up too much.

Re: Player development : Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:39 pm  

Ancient Provocateur wrote:

It strikes me that part of the problem at the club is that we are bringing good kids through but are not developing later in their careers like Langley and Cook.

Views?

Peacock?

or poppycock!

Re: Player development : Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:03 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

...bulking up too much.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there! My bro used to work with Ryan Atkins before he turned full time at Bradford and he said Langley had one of the most ripped backs he's ever seen. It's pretty clear from the way he staggers that he's too big, it's about time we got a fitness coach that develops lean quick players not bulky slow ones.

I don't see how Cook falls into the same boat though, he might give away a few too many penalties, but he's agressive and keen. A bit more game time would certainly not go amiss.

Re: Player development : Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:42 pm  

yougengis wrote:

I don't see how Cook falls into the same boat though, he might give away a few too many penalties, but he's agressive and keen. A bit more game time would certainly not go amiss.

Has he come on though?

Aggressive and keen doesn't make him a good player.

Re: Player development : Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:51 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

Has he come on though?

Aggressive and keen doesn't make him a good player.

I never thought Cook have the ingredients to make a top class player and nothings changed my mind yet.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:56 pm  

I think Cook is one of those players who does the graft and his first team opportunities have been stop start. I don't think we'll really know if he's good enough until he gets a consistent run.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 pm  

childofthenorthern wrote:

I think Cook is one of those players who does the graft and his first team opportunities have been stop start. I don't think we'll really know if he's good enough until he gets a consistent run.

I can't quote actual appearance numbers, but I'd say his had a fair enough crack at it over the last 2-3 years.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:00 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

I can't quote actual appearance numbers, but I'd say his had a fair enough crack at it over the last 2-3 years.

i don't think the raw numbers would show it. He's had a very stop start first team career.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:06 pm  

childofthenorthern wrote: i don't think the raw numbers would show it. He's had a very stop start first team career. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 The raw numbers for the 2207 and 2008 show he improved in most stats (more tackles, tries and metres, less errors, penalties and missed tackles). This year he's making more errors and giving away penalties although in a side that's struggling that's likely to be the same for most of them.

childofthenorthern wrote: i don't think the raw numbers would show it. He's had a very stop start first team career. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 The raw numbers for the 2207 and 2008 show he improved in most stats (more tackles, tries and metres, less errors, penalties and missed tackles). This year he's making more errors and giving away penalties although in a side that's struggling that's likely to be the same for most of them.