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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:40 pm  
vbfg wrote:
Terry Homes.

They're not built to last.


Thought you were going to mention his brother Jerry, his building isn't much better.

I'll get my coat................
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:56 pm  
Mr Dog wrote:
Another done deal, eh?
another frank e way bet....
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:59 pm  
Surely not wrote:
another frank e way bet....


You'll be favourite to win, so take it.
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:46 am  
On 20 August 2017 BB's Ferocious Aardvark said and we paraphrase his words for emphasis .... "I've been banging on about this for a while. The reason the RFL are up to something, and why they acquired the lease on Odsal in the first place .... (The) Bulls aren't important to them (i.e. the RFL) after 2019 when the rugby playing covenant expires, but (the Bulls) have a sublease so can't be booted (out)".

Ferocious Aardvark may be somewhat correct, but what proof (if any) does he, or any forum member for that matter, have of the time dependant covenant in the Odsal stadium head lease that he refers to above?

Spring 2019 is after all not far away. And what use is a sublease to us Bulls fans anyway if our iconic Odsal stadium can't, or won't, be used to play rugby league on post Spring 2019?

If it is in fact planned that there is to be no rugby league played at Odsal post Spring 2019 then what do Bradford Council and all the rugby league loving 'stakeholders' (inc Neil Hudgell and Michael Carter) have to say about this?

Rugby league fans are in any event 'stakeholders' in the sport of rugby league. The RFL may presently own the Odsal head lease, but in effect so do all the 'stakeholders' of rugby league, including ourselves. Don't we have a voice re the future of the sport's most iconic stadium?

If Odsal stadium is to be redeveloped without rugby league being played there, then why would all this be kept under wraps, and have other more higher value development options from other external well funded parties been considered?

The time is surely nigh for open public consultation in regard to the future of Odsal stadium; such consultation is of less use after 'the act'.
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:18 am  
I don't expect us to be moving any time soon, the Odsal millstone will remain around the club's neck for years to come.
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:18 am  
I don't expect us to be moving any time soon, the Odsal millstone will remain around the club's neck for years to come.
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:09 pm  
Well Bullsgeye you must agree that you don't always get what you expect.

In any case we are certain that the head lease for Odsal, in particular if rugby league were not to be played there, given it's excellent strategic and regional transport links, would be an attractive proposition for many investors if the sale of the head lease (or the freehold) for Odsal were put out to an open and competitive tender.

To say that the head lease for Odsal (as per recent RFL statements) is only worth a reputed sum of say £650K - £850K is laughable and scandalous. We would suggest that if that devalued figure is accurate, then Bradford Council should buy back the lease from the RFL for that bargain basement sum and sell it for the many millions that it is worth to the highest bidder who will guarantee that Odsal has a multi-purpose use, inc rugby league, moving forward.
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:36 pm  
belcki wrote:
Well Bullsgeye you must agree that you don't always get what you expect.

In any case we are certain that the head lease for Odsal, in particular if rugby league were not to be played there, given it's excellent strategic and regional transport links, would be an attractive proposition for many investors if the sale of the head lease (or the freehold) for Odsal were put out to an open and competitive tender.

To say that the head lease for Odsal (as per recent RFL statements) is only worth a reputed sum of say £650K - £850K is laughable and scandalous. We would suggest that if that devalued figure is accurate, then Bradford Council should buy back the lease from the RFL for that bargain basement sum and sell it for the many millions that it is worth to the highest bidder who will guarantee that Odsal has a multi-purpose use, inc rugby league, moving forward.


I don't suppose you'd like to tell us who "We" is in this instance?
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:41 pm  
belcki wrote:
Well Bullsgeye you must agree that you don't always get what you expect.

In any case we are certain that the head lease for Odsal, in particular if rugby league were not to be played there, given it's excellent strategic and regional transport links, would be an attractive proposition for many investors if the sale of the head lease (or the freehold) for Odsal were put out to an open and competitive tender.

To say that the head lease for Odsal (as per recent RFL statements) is only worth a reputed sum of say £650K - £850K is laughable and scandalous. We would suggest that if that devalued figure is accurate, then Bradford Council should buy back the lease from the RFL for that bargain basement sum and sell it for the many millions that it is worth to the highest bidder who will guarantee that Odsal has a multi-purpose use, inc rugby league, moving forward.

The 'headLEASE' probably is only worth that amount, remember the LEASE is the bit which allows the rugby to be played and the ground needs a severe and costly upgrading to fit it out for the 21st century.

If, as freehold owners, the council were to have other plans for the site I guess the political fallout would be massive if those plans didn't include rugby, either on-site or elsewhere. I'd also suspect that other sites, maybe not built into a hillside and without the toxic waste (and god knows what else) buried inside it might work out being better value to a possible purchaser. A fresh start elsewhere might also be a more viable option for the rugby club too.
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Re: Future of Odsal : Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:21 pm  
If it was such a fantastic investment opportunity with no complicating factors it would've already had something built on it by now. People have had plans for it for the past 80 years and nothing has come of them.

We'll still be there in 20 years.
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