Re: Change to P&R likely?? : Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:20 am  

Will we find out the outcome of this meeting actually on Friday? Will there be someone looking for white smoke from one of the many industrial chimneys at Red Hall?

Or presumably, as is the way with anything important involved with the RFL,will it be a botched press statement days after the news has leaked out from multiple sources anyway?

I think this is probably a rhetorical question. As the people who are participating in the meeting probably don't know themselves how it is to be announced, so there is bugger all chance of us poor saps knowing.

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:37 am  

Nothus wrote:

This game is meaningless regardless of the outcome of the vote on Friday.
The new structure gets approved and we're up anyway. The new structure doesn't get approved and we can't be caught by whoever is in third place so again it doesn't matter.

Is the increase to 14 clubs for the championship still part of the structure changes though?. This was initial proposal that the lower league clubs rejected. All the talk about fridays vote is to do with removal of eights and funding for next three years. I haven't seen any mention of the increase to 14 for championship in any of the reports about the vote, so are we just assuming thats still in there?

Re: Change to P&R likely?? : Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:07 am  

I understand a clear, unequivocal statement is to be released at 1600 on Friday delivered to the people of Narnia by Lord Lucan sat astride Shergar whilst being cheered on by Comical Ali

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 am  

mat wrote:

Is the increase to 14 clubs for the championship still part of the structure changes though?. This was initial proposal that the lower league clubs rejected. All the talk about fridays vote is to do with removal of eights and funding for next three years. I haven't seen any mention of the increase to 14 for championship in any of the reports about the vote, so are we just assuming thats still in there?

The change to 14 is still part of the talks, has been mentioned by a few journos over the past week or so.

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 pm  

I'm not so sure.

This is from Aaron Bower on twitter

Clubs are voting on ratification of financial guarantees from 2021 onwards and the scrapping of the Super 8s to a one-up, one-down system.

A simple 28-27 majority passes the proposals - but there needs to be a minimum four votes from both sides on any majority. So if SL are united and get 28 votes with the community game, four Ch/L1 clubs must support them. If that makes sense.

It’s then up to Ch/L1 to determine whether the Champ goes to 14 and how the promotion spot is decided (top are champs or a play-off system). Super League cannot, and do not want to, influence those talks. If proposals are passed, funding would be largely similar post-2021..

TV deal worth roughly £36mil per year. £10mil goes to RFL, and £5mil of that goes to Ch/L1. If the same deal is secured post-2021, RFL would get £8.3mil per year - however, the rights would be released for Ch/L1 to go out and get their own TV deal.

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:55 pm  

So, yes, it still could happen then...

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:31 pm  

amberavenger wrote:

So, yes, it still could happen then...

Perhaps not on Friday though.

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:58 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I'm not so sure.

This is from Aaron Bower on twitter

Suppose if it goes to the Ch/Ch1 clubs to decide then it comes down to whether an extra two home games but with funding split 14 ways, is worth more than staying at a 12 way split but with two less games. Could see that dragging out until after season ends and they see whos going up under present system.

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:48 pm  

Not sure any CH1 clubs would willingly want to see us directly up via a vote..Although slim, they may think they can retain the revenue streams we bring to them, if we were to miss out in the p/o's.

Re: Oldham away : Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:15 pm  

PHILISAN wrote:

Not sure any CH1 clubs would willingly want to see us directly up via a vote..Although slim, they may think they can retain the revenue streams we bring to them, if we were to miss out in the p/o's.

Not sure any League 1 clubs would vote purely on such a speculative basis considering we are still the most likely team to go up via the playoffs. The carrot for League 1 clubs at the top end of the table is they actually increase their chances of promotion this year - would you vote against that purely to get a crowd vs Bradford?

Where I think it may be a factor in that I think the Championship clubs probably do want us up and would vote for that change. Of course everyone may come to their senses and decide not to implement these changes until the end of next season rather than shifting the goalposts now.