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Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 9:12 am  

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My simple answer and I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of Wilson since he left and he didn’t play that many games for us but at the moment I’d be happier with Scurr in the side if we were picking a team for a game tomorrow

You never know with Levy out for majority of remaining season and Wilson not quite getting the game time....,,,
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 10:44 am  

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With Wigan, Leeds, Saints and Cas in for him knowing their financial might and simple position above us in the game please propose how we keep him?


What's been the point of developing him then? It's worse than a waste of money in that we're improving our competitors and further ensuring we can't compete with them. I understand players leaving amid financial chaos - it's gutting but it happens. But if we cannot compete for our youth players at age 20, and who will not be considered first choice 17 at any SL club, then we need to shut the academy now. Were he 22/3 and going into a good side's 21 man squad fair enough - but he isn't.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 10:54 am  

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What's been the point of developing him then? It's worse than a waste of money in that we're improving our competitors and further ensuring we can't compete with them. I understand players leaving amid financial chaos - it's gutting but it happens. But if we cannot compete for our youth players at age 20, and who will not be considered first choice 17 at any SL club, then we need to shut the academy now. Were he 22/3 and going into a good side's 21 man squad fair enough - but he isn't.


Give over. We're a part time side, if any player is given the chance to go full time and they want to take it then there is nothing we can do about that. The same goes for any other side in the same situation. It happens in all facets of sport.
That doesn't mean we should just throw the toys out of the pram and 'shut the academy now' as you suggest. One quick glance at all of our homegrown players in our current squad should tell you why that would be a terrible idea.
Some players will leave, that is unavoidable. But not all of them, and it will always be more beneficial to develop your own players rather than pay fees to bring them in from elsewhere.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 11:26 am  

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Some would prefer us to produce garbage players then we can keep them!!!!!!
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 11:37 am  

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You look at the likes of Doyle, Scurr, Pickersgill, we've got outstanding players for this level of comp and I'd imagine we're paying a damn sight less for them than some of our rivals spend on players they have to bring in.

How much more would we have to spend to attract players of the calibre of Doyle, Scurr Gallagher from opposition sides.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 12:03 pm  

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Scurr aside, they're not outstanding. Pickersgill is much improved and the others have potential to be good players. Oakes and Brown are good championship players but not outstanding by comparison with Lilley, Hallas, Nzoungou, England. Unless we're prepared to invest in a competitive wage up to age 22/3 and we see 2 or 3 full seasons, then the investment to that point is unjustifiable as it only benefits our competitors.

We've had this academy trumpeted since the early days of Mcbanana and whilst it's great to see a Scurr, I'm not sure it's a great deal more than a distraction.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sat May 15, 2021 4:45 pm  

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If we hadn't had so many balls ups off the field these academy lads wouldn't have left.

Unfortunately we're in the championship for good IMO this talk from Wood about aiming for SL is just that..
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sun May 16, 2021 11:32 am  

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Is Craig giving you a commission for the free advertising ? ;-)


Not when the show has been going for over three years now.

I think enough people know where it is if they want to watch it.
Re: Scurr attracting interest Sun May 16, 2021 2:46 pm  

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Unfortunately we're in the championship for good IMO this talk from Wood about aiming for SL is just that..

Spot on for my money. We haven't the money to compete in SL, so what's the point?
I can understand Wood, and other high ups talking about SL as many won't agree with our assessment of the situation and it's in everyone's benefit to keep people 'on-side'. All that said, who knows what plans are being made in Rot Hall? All other club's fans seem to think they're just trying to pop us back "where we belong", so who knows?
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Re: Scurr attracting interest Sun May 16, 2021 9:51 pm  

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Spot on for my money. We haven't the money to compete in SL, so what's the point?
I can understand Wood, and other high ups talking about SL as many won't agree with our assessment of the situation and it's in everyone's benefit to keep people 'on-side'. All that said, who knows what plans are being made in Rot Hall? All other club's fans seem to think they're just trying to pop us back "where we belong", so who knows?


Yes I find it quite amusing how many other fans seems to be cooking up the conspiracies that we are to get parachuted in to ‘save SL’...

On topic. Surely the underlying problem in all of this is a lack of money in the game. If Scurr wants to go full time we can’t stop him but (his out of contact situation aside which voids this) we should get money for him if he’s in contract.

So should all teams who develop players. Then that money is used for 2/3 decent players etc rather than the developing team being left out of pocket.

Is the special ‘super league clause’ still a thing? Ie if a super league side come in for a championship player they can leave no questions asked? That to me was always wrong and I know Bradford have benefitted from it in our glory days but it didn’t make it right then or now.
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