Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:25 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Just pure scum are Wigan. Such a scummy hive of scum.

If Thornley is such a talent and such a strapping lad and is 18, why the feck hasn't he already got a 4 year deal? Why hasn't he played in the first team? If he's genuinely so good why not cut one of the useless NRL players and sign him up?

You are not telling me that Thornley is going to Sale for anything other than money. Hands in pockets FFS, cut the overseas players and the numerous exemptions and act responsibly FFS.

You can't have 7 overseas stars from the NRL on bumper deals and they blame it all on the salary cap either.

Has no-one bothered to read my post? Or are you that arrogant and dense you just choose to ignore it and still spit out this bitter drivel?

Iain Thornley was offered a contract by Wigan. He was offered the chance to turn professional, but he rejected the offer because he wanted to finish off his A-levels. The agreement was he would join the first-team squad once his studies had finished. Sale RU have been chasing Thornley since he was a teenager. They have offered him X amount of money that no right-minded club would offer to an untested 18 year old. Especially since his form and progress has stagnated this season.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:26 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

Here's an idea Wigan, don't spend 400k+ on the three new signings and you could have kept one of the best young centre prospects in the game. No doubt come Oct/Nov we will be moaning about the lack of decent talent in the England back line and wondering why we are years behind NZ and Oz!

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:50 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Just pure scum are Wigan. Such a scummy hive of scum.

If Thornley is such a talent and such a strapping lad and is 18, why the feck hasn't he already got a 4 year deal? Why hasn't he played in the first team? If he's genuinely so good why not cut one of the useless NRL players and sign him up?

Well as you have quite clearly misunderstood Saddened, as Cadoo clearly pointed out Wigan did offer Thornley a contact which he turned down. Lenegan will have offered a very reasonable contract for Thornley to stay and Lenegan isn't the type of person to go and chase somebody after they have rejected our deal. Sort of a type if you don't want to sign the contact you do not deserve the right to be considered for wigan.

He's not played in the first team because he was still in FULL TIME education. so he couldn't play for the first team due to him only being able to train part time, which hampered his development and made the likes of marsh and charnley overtake him in the pecking order.

And I wouldnt call Hoffman, Finch and Lima "useless Aussies" all are in the prime of their careers and all are a step up from the imports what we currently have.

You are not telling me that Thornley is going to Sale for anything other than money. Hands in pockets FFS, cut the overseas players and the numerous exemptions and act responsibly FFS.

Why should we make exemptions for one player? We offered him a very very good contract but the matter of fact is union teams will offer more money due to them having a larger salary cap. I actually think you need to look at our figures and actually how many wigan academy products have played for us this year.

Goulding, Marsh, Ainscough, Sam Tomkins, Prescott, O'Carroll, McIllorum, Joel Tomkins, Hansen, O'Loughlin, Mossop, Tuson, Ben Davies, Liam Farrell, Jonny Walker. And at other clubs you have Josh Charnley who is excelling.

I think many clubs would love to have that many academy products graduating and making their mark in the first team so how is the loss of one player not acting responsibly?

You can't have 7 overseas stars from the NRL on bumper deals and they blame it all on the salary cap either

Again you will realise that the loss of one player will not affect us, we have actually got marsh and charnley who are two centres who are ahead of thornley in regards to development and we all know 3 into 2 positions doesn't work.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:38 pm  

I love how people are privvy to what sale have offered him financially.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:48 pm  

steve wrote:

can play isn't the same as IS

and Tommy was playing in a better team than Wigan's...

In fact, the most of Sam Tomkins young career was played at Scrum half.

Just take a look at 2008 u21's reports on cherry and white. He moved the 6 to accomodate Leuluai

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:58 pm  

Saint_Marc wrote:

I love how people are privvy to what sale have offered him financially.

I love how people are privvy to what wigan offered him to extend

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:04 pm  

Saint_Marc wrote:

I love how people are privvy to what sale have offered him financially.

Irrelevant to an extent.

Fact is, Wigan offered him a contract, Thornley declined and opted to join Sale.

There is nothing more Wigan could have done.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:20 pm  

What's the big deal about all this?

18 year old chooses money and education shocker! Quite simply, Sale have offered the kid a better future.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:39 pm  

The point is that presently we are top of SL and just gone and strengthen the halves and pack considerably. Issue is not that Wigan have missed out on a potential talent but the potential if the 3 players settle and Wigan start well next season then they will take some stopping. Wigan have more developed talent in the side than virtually and in SL yet its become an issue to bang the club on the head with.

Lets see if such a fuss happened if Warrington, Huddersfield, Wakey, Castelford, Salford, Crusaders, Quins did the same. Its an issue as its Wigan. And the best bit is we can bring 1 more in the club have benefited greatly from the problems at the Storm.

Unless your club has as many own developed talent in your side presently as Wigan so then you really dont have the right to complain about Wigan.
If Its your club your happy to get the 3 players Wigan have just signed but almost all cant generate youngsters like Wigan do and thats your clubs fault. So email them to complain rather than bash Wigan over it.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:43 pm  

Sometime you have to let players throught your net. You can't screw up your whole wage structure for a kid who's never played first team.

It happened at Saints when Bracek left when wire offered more - we've survived, so will wigan. Besides, don't they have Charnley + 1 other good young centre?