Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:05 am  

steve wrote:

2 stand off's together sounds good and a scrum half at hooker even better...

Oh dear Steve. 2 stand offs!!? Finch is a 7 who has been shifted to 6 to play with Cronk, at the time he signed with the storm many asked the question of why they had two organising 7's and no 6.

As for Thornley, my view from watching the 20's is that he's 3rd in line for a centre spot at wigan behind Stef Marsh and now Charnley. We offered Thornley a new contract to see how he develops but RU have offered more money.

Why offer good money to a player that Wigan see as only 3rd choice centre in the 20's, it doesn't make sense.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:10 am  

Iam no Wigan fan but i have no problem with the 3 Melbourne players coming in. They are the calibre of Aussie player that should be coming over here with all of them in their prime. Wigan will surely be releasing overseas players (that are of a lesser standard) to make room for the Melbourne lads. Add to this the quality of the English lads they already have (loads of them are early to mid twenties in age) and i think Wigan have done some really good business here. On paper Wigan should be a top 3 team for the next 3 years and probably more.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:14 am  

Saint_Marc wrote:

Does anyone find this all a bit ironic considering wigan used to steal, rape and pillage other clubs in the 80s and 90s?

I bet thornley was "irritated" at wigan for signing yet more overseas players.

He won't be bothered.

He's been offered a huge money move to Union & being paid more money than Rugby League could offer at this stage in his non-first grade appearance career.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:16 am  

I think Finch at 7 and Tomkins at 6 is a good combination myself. Finch will be able to give Sam good service which will benefit him immensely on the field. The experience Finch will bring will also help Tomkins at this stage of his career. With Leuluei and Mcillorum rotating at 9 will give Wigan the best combination of 9,7 and 6 in the league next year imo. Better than Saints and Leeds.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:20 am  

ABP' wrote:

He won't be bothered.

He's been offered a huge money move to Union & being paid more money than Rugby League could offer at this stage in his non-first grade appearance career.

But you have to look at why such a good player hasn't made an appearance as yet? Leuleuai is pants, Bailey, Roberts, Carmont, Riddell are all pants.

In their youth system Wigan have this massive resource but they don't tap into anything like the full potential of the area. Quality Wigan youngsters should be in the Wigan team, not making up the best part of the other teams and servicing Union.

Why can't any Wigan fans just admit it? They SHOULD have promoted Thornley and they SHOULD be paying him the money they will instead waste on a retirement fund for an NRL player?

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:33 am  

Saddened! wrote:

But you have to look at why such a good player hasn't made an appearance as yet?

Leuleuai is pants - NZ international and World cup winner
Bailey - agreed but there are other quality youngsters behind him, he will be going at the end of the season
Roberts - the best player in the league before his injury
Carmont - no worldbeater but above average for the centres in the SL
Riddell -our best hooker by a mile


The fact is you cant offer all your youngsters big money, there simply isnt the resources in SL to do that, some will always jump ship to other lines of work

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:33 am  

I am happy that Warrington will have a settled side again next season. History suggests the successful teams do not make wholesale changes.

Any new signing carries a risk.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:35 am  

In their youth system Wigan have this massive resource but they don't tap into anything like the full potential of the area. Quality Wigan youngsters should be in the Wigan team, not making up the best part of the other teams and servicing Union.

11 out of 17 for the last game, only Leeds and Saints can match that figure

The fact is you cant offer all your youngsters big money, there simply isnt the resources in SL to do that, some will always jump ship to other lines of work

Chris Ashton is a great example, now a GB RU international but at the time we could have never offered him the 140k per year figure that RU offered him as he was just a talented youngster

Maybe the RFL should look at this and make youngsters count only 50% on the cap? And the first full year not count at all on the cap.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:11 am  

Saddened! wrote:

But you have to look at why such a good player hasn't made an appearance as yet? Leuleuai is pants, Bailey, Roberts, Carmont, Riddell are all pants.

In their youth system Wigan have this massive resource but they don't tap into anything like the full potential of the area. Quality Wigan youngsters should be in the Wigan team, not making up the best part of the other teams and servicing Union.

Why can't any Wigan fans just admit it? They SHOULD have promoted Thornley and they SHOULD be paying him the money they will instead waste on a retirement fund for an NRL player?

Well the current overseas players have helped kept us consistanly on the of the league through out the season despite your opinions, haven't they?

Thornley isn't good enough to be starting for Wigan and Thornley isn't worth matching the wages that Union were offering. The rest of Super League obviously agrees as there no equivilant offers to keep him in League, were there?

Can't even believe I took one of your posts on.

Re: Wigan "owner" irritated : Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:32 am  

Can we name this the "We all hate Wigan thread" or perhaps "Looking for any excuses to put Wigan down (even if it includes lying) because we are extremely bitter about their stature, success, history, league standing, quality youth system, well run club, the fact they are known as the biggest club in world rugby even on the other side of the planet thread".