Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:18 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Anybody know what the odds on a Widnes win were?

20/1 when I checked before the game kicked off! I didn't bet on unfortunately, but was confident enough to take the 34+ start giving to Widnes.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:25 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Personally i think he did disrespect Widnes and got his just deserts. I think he thought Wigan only had to turn up and they had the two points. For a coach this is unforgvable.

RFL should ban or fine him, Wane can choose who he wants. Wigan have lost the two points.

Wigan losing 2 points is all well and good, but it won't make a difference to them. They will still be top 4 at the end of the season.

It makes a huge difference at the other end of the table though. Widnes got 2 points today that no one expected them to get, and probably wouldn't have got if Wigan had played their full team. Just a few weeks ago at Cas, Wigan played a full team and set their intentions out from the start and ran riot. Today they rested several key players and were turned over. It's just bloody frustrating.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:30 pm  

who needs flankers? wrote:

Wigan losing 2 points is all well and good, but it won't make a difference to them. They will still be top 4 at the end of the season.

It makes a huge difference at the other end of the table though. Widnes got 2 points today that no one expected them to get, and probably wouldn't have got if Wigan had played their full team. Just a few weeks ago at Cas, Wigan played a full team and set their intentions out from the start and ran riot. Today they rested several key players and were turned over. It's just bloody frustrating.

Castelford bent over though

They bent over and took a right good pounding. Then the week after played like their lives depended on it against leeds (kel suprise!) Maybe if they'd played with the same intensity wigan wouldn't have won even with a full strength team.

So I can see how it's frustrating, if the team bends over one week and then goes all out the next.

But that's got nothing to do with wigans team selection.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:31 pm  

jesus-is-coming wrote:

Widnes won great stuff but to get to the o. p. wigan fielded a weakened team bringing the game into disrepute didn't saints get fined a few years ago for pulling the same stunt at bradford?

Be interesting what new accounts with bookmakers got opened in wigan during the week

Looked at the team posted on skysports centre and spat my cup of tea out,as there been a outbreak of food posioning at pooles pies?For the wigan numpty coach to field that team?

Serves him right hope the 2 points cost them

Not sure if they got fined - it was the game where Long and Gleeson were caught betting against St Helens, though.

Leeds were fined once back in the nineties for fielding an under-strength team before their Challenge Cup final, but I'm still not sure what the actual RFL ruling is...

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:36 pm  

Only beat what's in front of you.

Wigan had five players out, Widnes had six out.

We deserved our win regardless of whatever any numpty says.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:37 pm  

Paddy_88 wrote:

Only beat what's in front of you.

Wigan had five players out, Widnes had six out.

We deserved our win regardless of whatever any numpty says.

Well, there's no arguing with that, at least!

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:44 pm  

Paddy_88 wrote:

Only beat what's in front of you.

Wigan had five players out, Widnes had six out.

We deserved our win regardless of whatever any numpty says.

Pipe down.

Wigan chose to field a weakened team because presumably they thought widnes would be easy pickings.

That's the issue.

Wigan disrespected you. No ones saying you didn't deserve to win, you had more first teamers out, but that was inforced, not by choice.

People are on your side here.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:51 pm  

Wilbred T Pricklepop wrote:

Pipe down.

Wigan chose to field a weakened team because presumably they thought widnes would be easy pickings.

That's the issue.

Wigan disrespected you. No ones saying you didn't deserve to win, you had more first teamers out, but that was inforced, not by choice.

People are on your side here.

Leeds rested players against us and people weren't bleating on about disrespect then. Why should it matter what team they put out, you only play what's in front of you and we beat it. End of. We deserved our win no matter what team Wigan fielded.

Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:03 pm  

Paddy_88 wrote:

Leeds rested players against us and people weren't bleating on about disrespect then. Why should it matter what team they put out, you only play what's in front of you and we beat it. End of. We deserved our win no matter what team Wigan fielded.

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Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:12 pm  

No club should be fined for utilising and rotating their squad in any way they deem appropriate. These regular round fixtures are just warm-up games for when the Super League competition really begins in September after Round 27.

The top clubs can afford to experiment with weakened teams and risk losing fixtures, safe in the knowledge they will still comfortably qualify in a good play off position.

Perhaps Wigan have studied the current play-off system in more detail and taken note of where Leeds finished in those play-off's last season, along with the benefits of finishing in a better position for a tilt at the title from just outside the Top 4? Finish 5th or 6th and you are rewarded with an easy home game against a team of no-hopers like Hull or Hull KR. The following week you are rewarded with an easier away game against a team which got bruised and smashed by a top 4 team the week before. All you have to do then is peak for an away semi final and a Grand Final on neutral territory and you are SL champions.

Finishing 2nd last year did Wigan no favours at all so today's loss could well prove to be a blessing in disguise for them and perhaps the first piece in a shrewd tactical operation to finish 5th or 6th.