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Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:46 pm  
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Only beat what's in front of you.

Wigan had five players out, Widnes had six out.

We deserved our win regardless of whatever any numpty says.


We actually had 9 players out if you include injuries - we just rested 5. :D
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Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:01 pm  
Nothing to do with "disrespect".

Just a decision that backfired on Wane. Badly. Serves him right, and he'll know that.

The real disrespect is by those who attribute Widnes' win solely to Wane's dumb (with hindsight) decision, IMO. The game still had to be won.

Same as ours did against HKR - went into the game with ten of the first team squad injured, two out on season-long loan and two more injured early doors in the match. Yet we won. I suspect for the same sort of reasons that Widnes did.

Bollox to "disrespect" - lets show respect where its due?
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Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:13 pm  
As others have said it's not disrespect. If you'd heard Wane's comments before the game he certainly wasn't taking Widnes lightly. He wasn't 'disrespecting' Widnes but putting faith in the players that he picked.

Given that Wigan were 18 points up at one point and only lost by a late drop goal and missed a potential game winning penalty he was certainly right to think that the team he put out was capable of a win. The issue for Wigan wasn't a lack of ability from the players on the field it was the fact that every time we went a couple of tries up our discipline suddenly became dreadful and they were piggy backed up the field with consecutive penalties.
Phil Clarke loves to bang on about how costly back to back penalties can be and Wigan were guilty of that time and time again and were making it much easier for Widnes than it should have been. The players should take the blame for the performance (the senior players as they were letting the team down most) rather than Shaun Wane.

The bottom line for Wigan is that quite a few young players have to step up this year to replace the likes of Carmont, Finch and Leuluai. I'm not sure a steady approach to bringing young players through is going to help too much in the long run, so I don't blame the coach for wanting to find out how the youngsters cope as quickly as possible.
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Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:19 pm  
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I suggest you read the Wigan board. It is full of Wigan fans saying you 'disrespected' us. You didnt. You just rested your 3 key players while we had our 3 key players out with injury. End of.

Actually I've since been on and you're right there are some posts which say that. I disagree with them, mind.
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Re: Disrespect : Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:21 pm  
Cherry Pie talks sense IMO. And interesting (for an outsider) assessment on what went wrong. On reflection, scratch my comment about it being a dumb decision.

CP - are you a "Simon's Cat" fan too? I've GOT Simon's Cat - although its called Zac.
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Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:11 am  
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Cherry Pie talks sense IMO. And interesting (for an outsider) assessment on what went wrong. On reflection, scratch my comment about it being a dumb decision.

CP - are you a "Simon's Cat" fan too? I've GOT Simon's Cat - although its called Zac.


Thanks! Not many other Wigan fans seem to agree with me though!

And yes, Simon's Cat is rather brilliant. Never would have found it funny before I had to look after my friends cat once; then it all made sense.
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Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:49 am  
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As others have said it's not disrespect. If you'd heard Wane's comments before the game he certainly wasn't taking Widnes lightly. He wasn't 'disrespecting' Widnes but putting faith in the players that he picked.



It's not what people say it's what they do !

Words are cheap.

Apparently on GMR, Wane said he "might do the same" cock- up against London as he did Sunday, playing too many youngsters. So yes, he did take Widnes lightly.
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Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:26 am  
RFL fix? wouldnt suprise me.
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Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:19 pm  
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RFL fix? wouldnt suprise me.


Obviously would suprise everybody. Would a team wanting to lose go up 36-18 in the second half? Hate how much this sort of thing has been said, give Widnes some credit!
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Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:15 pm  
Talking of disrespect, ignore Wigan and watch the Leeds game this weekend.Ryan Bailey shoves the referee with both hands; Gareth Hock grabbed a ref's arm once and almost got the guillotine for it.
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