Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:19 pm  

Kernel wrote:

Talking of disrespect, ignore Wigan and watch the Leeds game this weekend.Ryan Bailey shoves the referee with both hands; Gareth Hock grabbed a ref's arm once and almost got the guillotine for it.

Oh dear. Silverwood was in the way of the defensive line close to the try line. In the Hock case IIRC it was after Wigan had conceded a try and Ian Smith was walking away when Hock lost it and pulled him back.
But don't worry about little things like facts when Ryan Bailey's involved.

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:56 pm  

SIMMSFAXTEDDY wrote:

RFL fix? wouldnt suprise me.

It's so obvious that I don't know why anyone hasn't brought it up before!

RFL: Right Wigan, we want you to lose this week, because it will make a good story. So don't try as hard. What? What's in it for you? You do as your told. Right, get on with it.

Players: Right away sir!

Half time: Right, good first half, no one has twigged. We want you to go three tries up, and then squander the lead. Make it look convincing, we don't want any loose ends!

Players: OK, this makes perfect sense and I certainly don't mind match fixing for no benefit to me personally whatsoever.

If only you hadn't come along and exposed this trickery!

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:02 pm  

Kernel wrote:

Talking of disrespect, ignore Wigan and watch the Leeds game this weekend.Ryan Bailey shoves the referee with both hands; Gareth Hock grabbed a ref's arm once and almost got the guillotine for it.

Must be mistaken identity, Mr Bailey wouldnt ever do a dis-service to the game, you need to check the vt.

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:47 pm  

Its a pleasure to read the balanced view of things on here, as the Wigan board is full of ranting loonies at the moment. I have no problem with the choice of team, it was a team that should have won, if it had we would have been bragging about our strength in depth. Indeed we should brag about it. No one can deny it was a close game, which we could have won, and it gave valuble experience to young players. Was it too much of a change, well the result says so, but will these players be better losing in a game like this, than being brought into a playoff game and losing there. This was a game about our future, not our past.

Every credit to Widnes for wanting the win more, and getting it.

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:12 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Its a pleasure to read the balanced view of things on here, as the Wigan board is full of ranting loonies at the moment. I have no problem with the choice of team, it was a team that should have won, if it had we would have been bragging about our strength in depth. Indeed we should brag about it. No one can deny it was a close game, which we could have won, and it gave valuble experience to young players. Was it too much of a change, well the result says so, but will these players be better losing in a game like this, than being brought into a playoff game and losing there. This was a game about our future, not our past.

Every credit to Widnes for wanting the win more, and getting it.

Great post...

I did post about a lot of your fans loving the squad when it was first put up,
Going on about the young talent, the amount of local boys etc only for them to be back on after the result totally ripping it to shreds!

So it's good to see a post of this nature...

Cheers

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:57 pm  

Him wrote:

Oh dear. Silverwood was in the way of the defensive line close to the try line. In the Hock case IIRC it was after Wigan had conceded a try and Ian Smith was walking away when Hock lost it and pulled him back.
But don't worry about little things like facts when Ryan Bailey's involved.

Oh dear - potentially two for the price of one.

Super League twitter feed wrote:

Disciplinary: Leeds players Ryan Bailey&Brett Webb both charged with committing a Grade C offence of physical contact with a match official

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:07 pm  

Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote: Oh dear - potentially two for the price of one. Have a look at the incident and decide exactly who did what that was so terribly wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxxpgZOHNk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s

Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote: Oh dear - potentially two for the price of one. Have a look at the incident and decide exactly who did what that was so terribly wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxxpgZOHNk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:07 pm  

craigizzard wrote: Have a look at the incident and decide exactly who did what that was so terribly wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxxpgZOHNk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s Didn't see anything particularly wrong when watching the game Friday night, but then I haven't looked at the different angles or was looking for them like the panel will have done. Then again I'm not the one that'll need convincing there was anything in either of them. The disciplinary seem to have tighter up a lot this season and I can't remember many (if at all) getting off when they're up before the beak.

craigizzard wrote: Have a look at the incident and decide exactly who did what that was so terribly wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxxpgZOHNk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s Didn't see anything particularly wrong when watching the game Friday night, but then I haven't looked at the different angles or was looking for them like the panel will have done. Then again I'm not the one that'll need convincing there was anything in either of them. The disciplinary seem to have tighter up a lot this season and I can't remember many (if at all) getting off when they're up before the beak.

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:15 pm  

craigizzard wrote: Have a look at the incident and decide exactly who did what that was so terribly wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxxpgZOHNk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s Do you mean the bit where first Brent Webb, and then Ryan Bailey, clearly push Silverwood? This being "deliberate physical contact with a match official", described as being a grade D-E offence in the On Field Compliance Sentencing Guidelines from 2010. Pro tip: when claiming innocence, try not to produce evidence that demonstrates guilt Whether you or I think that particular incident is 'so terribly wrong' or not isn't important - there are good reasons why players don't have the right to push the referee around, no matter where they're stood.

craigizzard wrote: Have a look at the incident and decide exactly who did what that was so terribly wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxxpgZOHNk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s Do you mean the bit where first Brent Webb, and then Ryan Bailey, clearly push Silverwood? This being "deliberate physical contact with a match official", described as being a grade D-E offence in the On Field Compliance Sentencing Guidelines from 2010. Pro tip: when claiming innocence, try not to produce evidence that demonstrates guilt Whether you or I think that particular incident is 'so terribly wrong' or not isn't important - there are good reasons why players don't have the right to push the referee around, no matter where they're stood.

Re: Disrespect : Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:31 pm  

On the issue of respect, I wonder if there'll be anything more about the incident with Ganson and the physio? I didn't hear what was said, but Ganson clearly took exception to it and gave the physio in question a dressing down.