is international rugby league going backwards? : Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:10 pm  

if you think we have not then why do we not play internationals at wembley like we did in 90s? surely are sport is bigger nowadays.
you might say wembley is lot bigger and we wont fill it but i think we would get over 50,000 if it was planned and advertised properly instead of going to stadiums like elland road which is a dump, dw which is a nice stadium, galpharm and keepmoat.

opinions please

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:18 pm  

I agree about the stadiums. Rugby league really has to start pushing itself into the national spotlight by going to bigger stadiums and actually trying to attract lots of people to a game instead of sticking games in Doncaster and Wigan.

We know there are more than 23000 people who watch rugby league through out the year. They should look to put games in places like the city of Manchester stadium or Elland road for a group game but then somewhere bigger for a final.

If International rugby league keeps being presented in small stadiums with low crowds then that's what people will believe it is and will forever be.

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:20 pm  

The biggest game on the calender for England failed to draw a full house at the DW, why look to move the game to stadiums with bigger capacities?

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:29 pm  

J O N N Y wrote:

The biggest game on the calender for England failed to draw a full house at the DW, why look to move the game to stadiums with bigger capacities?

if it was at likes of wembley people will wanna go just because its wembley

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:33 pm  

I certainly wouldnt bother going to wembley.
It was enough of a trek to watch wires in the cup final.
COM would be fine if you could get it or the Reebok/Anfield

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:05 pm  

Dico wrote:

I certainly wouldnt bother going to wembley.
It was enough of a trek to watch wires in the cup final.
COM would be fine if you could get it or the Reebok/Anfield

thats one of good things about going wembley and make a good weeekend of it.

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:14 pm  

Dico wrote:

I certainly wouldnt bother going to wembley.
It was enough of a trek to watch wires in the cup final.
COM would be fine if you could get it or the Reebok/Anfield

Hopefully they would be the types of stadiums considered in the 2011 Four nations.

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:29 pm  

Going down south isn't the best option in the world. I'd look at football grounds in the north with a capacity of around 40k for games against Oz and NZ.

Elland road, Anfield, COM, Goodison, Brammal (sp) lane (maybe pitch is a bit small).

Games against france should be in grounds of around 25k with attractive and aggressive pricing strategy.

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:32 pm  

beechill warrior wrote:

thats one of good things about going wembley and make a good weeekend of it.

But its soo expensive.
Ive been to a few four nations games.
I couldnt afford 1 at wembley. There will be many in the same situation

: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:39 pm  

what they need to do rather than doing desperate last minute things like this.... http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=435671 (which even if successful in selling out will be a false economy and lose money) is to send tickets out like RU do at the start of the season to all the clubs in the league and all amateur clubs, who then sell the tickets and keep a proportion for club funds (thus having an incentive to sell the tickets themselves as agents of the RFL) Just googled barla and found that as at 1999 there were 1,500 amateur RL clubs in the country (I would expect that to be somewhere between 2000-2,500 now if not more).......now if each of them cant sell 20-30 on average, each NL1 and NL2 side 200 - 300, each SL side 1,000 then its a bad job!! Do that and before you even look at central RL sales youve got sales of somewhere in the region of 60k....how else do you think RU sells out Twickenham each week. Until the RL do this we will forever look small time in international events as the games are only in the 'supporters eye' for one week of the year and sales cant be built up. If we sold tickets like this we could play 4 nations group games at places like Anfield, Old Trafford, C of M etc and make our game look credible as RU do. Instead the RL are apathetic, do no marketing and take the game to somewhere like doncaster, where no one can be bothered going, we get circa 6-7k pre game sales the week before, by which the RL then brick themselves at the disgrace and how it will make the sport look, and start practically giving tickets away thus further devaluing the international game!! Planning is key....if the games are planned for the season start and tickets are rolled out to all clubs for sale those figures i have quoted are easily achievable IMO....added to that each club can have blocks of seats, so you'd get amatur clubs sitting together, fans of NL and SL clubs together etc which would only add to the carnaval and general atmosphere.

what they need to do rather than doing desperate last minute things like this.... http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=435671 (which even if successful in selling out will be a false economy and lose money) is to send tickets out like RU do at the start of the season to all the clubs in the league and all amateur clubs, who then sell the tickets and keep a proportion for club funds (thus having an incentive to sell the tickets themselves as agents of the RFL) Just googled barla and found that as at 1999 there were 1,500 amateur RL clubs in the country (I would expect that to be somewhere between 2000-2,500 now if not more).......now if each of them cant sell 20-30 on average, each NL1 and NL2 side 200 - 300, each SL side 1,000 then its a bad job!! Do that and before you even look at central RL sales youve got sales of somewhere in the region of 60k....how else do you think RU sells out Twickenham each week. Until the RL do this we will forever look small time in international events as the games are only in the 'supporters eye' for one week of the year and sales cant be built up. If we sold tickets like this we could play 4 nations group games at places like Anfield, Old Trafford, C of M etc and make our game look credible as RU do. Instead the RL are apathetic, do no marketing and take the game to somewhere like doncaster, where no one can be bothered going, we get circa 6-7k pre game sales the week before, by which the RL then brick themselves at the disgrace and how it will make the sport look, and start practically giving tickets away thus further devaluing the international game!! Planning is key....if the games are planned for the season start and tickets are rolled out to all clubs for sale those figures i have quoted are easily achievable IMO....added to that each club can have blocks of seats, so you'd get amatur clubs sitting together, fans of NL and SL clubs together etc which would only add to the carnaval and general atmosphere.