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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:20 pm  
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There's nothing wrong with the system of video refereeing. It's the individual who has made the decision that's wrong. Those two decisions last night have to rank as two of the worst that I've ever seen. You can forgive close calls, howver neither of those two Harlequins RL decisions were that. Both were clear cut calls.


This is exactly my point.

I reckon it's now clear that, however good and knowledgable a referee you may be on the field, the RFL hasn't catered for the possibility that a ref may be a technologcal halfwit, or a person whose brain just isn't wired to look at a 2D image and be able to work out 3D angles properly.

I often wonder about this when the VR is asked to check if someone was onside. Once the frame freezes, you have to make allowance for parallax as the lines on the pitch diverge towards the camera, but usually, to me, it's immediately blindingly obvious. Yet some of these guys seem to take an age, and start looking from all sorts of angles and repeat several times, and this might just be because their brains just aren't able to do the maths.

At least, that sort of theory could explain the "no knock on" ruling. How you either explain the no-try ruling - or more to the point, try to reconcile it with other calls made in similar circumstances, or the rules, is a bigger problem.
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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:23 pm  
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I feel the biggest problem is that the replays are slowed down so much, freeze framed, run forwards then backwards again, shown from another angle, then the first angle again, practically every decision that gets referred ends up looking dubious.

For the disallowed Sharp try yesterday the touch judge was about five yards away and was practically obscuring the camera's view from one angle - if he can't be trusted to call that he might as well not be there. On another decision that was referred the in goal judge was right on the spot and would have had an unobstructed view. If we must have the referral system I feel all replays should be shown at real speed and if they're doubtful the try is given. The first Quins try yesterday was unbelievable - Dorn(?) clearly touched the ball forward before a defender knocked it right back into the in goal area for Randall to score.


didn't think we had in goal judges in televised games.
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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:47 pm  
The first Leeds try tonight is another shot in the arm for the anti VR brigade.
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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:19 pm  
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The first Leeds try tonight is another shot in the arm for the anti VR brigade.


Never a try in a million years. Ganson got it completely wrong, therefore human error was to blame and not the technology. If only we had someone who knew what they were doing behind the big red button.
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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:36 pm  
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didn't think we had in goal judges in televised games.

You're right. It must have been the ref then! There was definitely an official in a bright orange kit standing a couple of yards away! At least he was in a great position even if he wasn't decisive enough to take a decision!

I'd take Alibert ahead of most refs on yesterday's performance, but I thought he was too lenient with lying on at the tackle. Otherwise fair and consistent.
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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:16 pm  
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Apart from missing Bailey's blatant double movement you mean?


Was it really that obvious to see in the pace of the game?
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: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:28 pm  
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Was it really that obvious to see in the pace of the game?


I didnt think it was obvious till we saw Alibetrs view!
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